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Security Federal Sources confirm what some narcobanners hung in northern states suggested since early last month: Los Zetas, the extremely violent group of thugs who became the Gulf Cartel, faces a break in the dome. Its two main leaders, the Z-40 and the Lazca apparently are engaged in a complicated web of betrayals, experts, predicts a new and more serious bloodshed in the country. On the morning of June 1st a group of young hung a large banner in the Garden Independence in the Historic Center of Zacatecas. Almost four teenagers while they climbed the stairs of a pedestrian bridge across the busy avenue Felix U. Gomez, the center of Monterrey, to place the same narcomensaje in the center had a large photograph of Heriberto Lazcano Lazcano, El Lazca. Around the image of Lazca were seven other lords smaller mushrooms that have been killed or captured, including Jesus Enrique Rejon Aguilar, El you baby, Jaime Gonzalez Duran, The Hummer, Arturo Guzmán Decena, Z-1, and Raul Lucio Hernández Lettuce, The Lucky. In those days was also uploaded to the video portal Youtube a run with the following warning: "Pay attention cartels in Mexico and other countries, this is the story of a person who has betrayed fellow teaming up with federal and deliver them and their plan is a leader of Los Zetas. " With that warning starts the video they called "the true story of Z-40", referring to Miguel Angel Trevino Morales, who along with The Lazca has control of Los Zetas, the group that operated until 2009 as the armed wing Cartel Gulf to serve Osiel Cardenas Guillen, now imprisoned in the United States.
Then another video: "New run of Los Zetas", which tells of the treachery alleged to have committed the "New Judas" as identified Treviño Morales, against some members of that organization. On June 7 the same message with the photo of the center Lazca appeared before the municipal president of Ciudad Mante, Tamaulipas. But this time was placed at the door of a truck inside which there were 14 mutilated corpses. Click here to view. These messages and events such as the dismemberment of 49 bodies that were abandoned early on May 13 in Cadereyta, reveal a new division in one of the most powerful and diversified in the Republic, which could be a prelude to a new bathroom of blood. "Z-40" vs. "The Lazca" Security sources confirmed the federal government that it is split between Los Zetas and believe that the struggle is for leadership. Treviño Morales mentioned can even betray and to deliver to the Lazca, the only of the military elite still in the organization. Other Army deserters who created the Zetas at the beginning of Vicente Fox have been killed or imprisoned. "The Z-40 has been betrayed and has been putting people Lazca" say the officials, who add that Lazcano has been moving between Europe and Central America. I recently was located in Costa Rica, where he arrived from Germany. Lazcano has lost a lot of people you trust and that has forced him to retreat, although the recent arrest of Jose Trevino Morales, brother of the Z-40, which may favor, they say. Jose Trevino was arrested on June 12 in the U.S., accused of laundering money for his brother. The research in this country has to do only with the cell of Los Zetas by Treviño Morales and does not involve the entire criminal organization. The Z-40, who has been located between Piedras Negras, Coahuila, Aguascalientes, could make even more violent cartel that if he can remain in control, it has distinguished himself as an impulsive operator, say the sources. News of the zeta division are not new. Since April last year the Texas firm Stratfor intelligence realized versions in this regard: "Stratfor has heard rumors of a split between the leader of Los Zetas, Heriberto Lazcano Lazcano, El Lazca, and number three in the organization, Miguel Angel Trevino Morales, Z-40. But we have not been possible to confirm this and determine if the leaders wear side was affected or caused by that division. " Versions were not there. In June last year it was reported that Lazcano was killed in a clash with the army in Matamoros. The Ministry of National Defense (SEDENA) denied it. Narcomensaje The narcobanners that appeared in Zacatecas, Monterrey and Ciudad Mante began last June with a warning: "This goes for all of us who are near the boss Lazcano and Z-40". The authors of the text used the name of Guzmán Decena, Z-1, the soldier who founded Los Zetas and died in Matamoros in November 2002 in a clash with army excompañeros. The appeal was to ask whether Heriberto Lazcano catch some z's heads are accidents or have been betrayals. The casualties have been with the Army or the Navy. But most have fallen into the hands of the Federal Police (PF). In the narcobanners is said that the detention of Germain Torres Jimenez, El Tatanka was "understandable to remove the heat of the U.S. government." This is because in December 2008 that was responsible for the kidnapping and murder of former agent Felix Batista FBI in Saltillo. Then ask who gave it: Lazcano o Z-40? After being captured in Poza Rica, Veracruz, El Tatanka confessed to the PF who had left the Plaza Saltillo because he knew that members of his group wanted to eliminate it. Another of the names on the covers is to Efrain Teodoro Torres, La Chispa or Z-14, who died in the attack on March 3, 2007 in Villarin, Veracruz, where he held a horse race. His name came back to light by the arrest of the brother of the Z-40 for among those accused of laundering money for Miguel Angel Trevino, the U.S. Justice Francisco Colorado Cessa included, this in fact where he died on Z-14. The narcobanners say that after killing his left Torres' family in the street. " There is also the name of Enrique Reyes, Rex or Z-12, arrested in June 2007 in Hidalgo by the military. "His dream was to marry you relied on the location of your wedding and putting betrayed her wedding day," says narcomensaje also question whether the Lucky it has captured the Navy when he was alone, even though "he was very careful in their safety. " Was "chance or treason?". The narcomensajes also note that Miguel Angel Trevino walked along with Daniel Perez, El Cachetes, when he was arrested in Guatemala in April 2008. "It was the second in command of yours as he fought and 40 other. Coincidence or treason? ". They also say that the head zeta in Reynosa, Jaime Duran, The Hummer, he "interfered to 40 for that outlines more than him." Also refer exmilitar the arrest of another group's founder, The you baby, and Alberto Jose Gonzalez Xalate, El Paisa, stopped by the PF in April 2012 in Saltillo while riding in a car with his wife and three children. "He was a good friend of yours and looked after your finances and personal interests blues accident that also found him walking in a car alone with your family!" The message ends with the phrase: "Draw conclusions ... the majority were stopped by the blues and is as easy as giving a phone number and you ganchan. "The only people who were reported to 40 you mentioned ... are all chance or treason? With whom we are safer with Lazcano or 40. " Also in video The narcovideos are more explicit: they say that "Judas" Los Zetas is Miguel Angel Trevino. We engage in a series of intrigues and murders of the same peer group and warn Lazcano that the Z-40 "knows no loyalty." "There is a saying that is very true, or you have to trust your shadow. That you bring to one side knows no loyalty ... and you to trust your shadow, you know where you'll end up, "says" The new run of Los Zetas. " "There I leave you to remember what the Sierra de Victoria, San Luis and San Fernando, remember and make memory, you dropped the whole government and almost did not manage to," he adds. Media versions circulating in Nuevo Leon police say Los Zetas and are divided into two camps, one of which is negotiating with disaffected groups of the Gulf Cartel to form a group and leave the Z-40. And note that Heriberto Lazcano has much time away from the main action. One of the facts that demonstrate the division of the group occurred early on May 13, when Jesus Elizondo Ramirez, El Loco, Zeta leader in Cadereyta, disobeyed the orders of the Z-40. Captured by the military on 18 May in the town of Guadalupe, confessed that he "was ordered to Heriberto Lazcano and Miguel Angel Trevino and the head of the criminal organization in that entity, which is known as El Morro, to be coordinated with a guy nicknamed El Camarón and leave in the main square of Cadereyta bodies was going to deliver such person, together with a blanket that incriminated as responsible for the killing, "says a statement from the Department of Defense. Elizondo told Ramirez that a representative of Camarón, José Ricardo Barajas Lopez, The Speaker, who escaped the prison of Apodaca, quoted in the village of Los Herrera, where he met with 30 gunmen who gave him the 49 bodies, "which were transported in several trucks, including a truck. " "Because of the likely consequences that would trigger an event of this nature against" El Loco violated the orders of their commanders and decided to "leave the bodies where they were later located by the authorities and not in the central square of the municipality, as he said. " In this version, the morning of May 13 The Speaker is responsible for recording the action with his cell phone and then the video was uploaded to Youtube, but it lasted a few hours on the network. In his confessions to the military, Elizondo Ramirez confirmed that the Z-40 was in Guatemala when he was arrested the Cachetes. The statement of the Department of Defense states that Elizondo "further noted that in March 2008 was part of a group of assassins led by Treviño Morales, who raided the department of Zacapa in Guatemala to expand control of the organization that country, registering several clashes with local groups where he died Guatemalan drug trafficker Juan Jose Leon Radon, aka Juancho Leon. " Two days after the 49 bodies appeared, the group is splitting tens of narcobanners placed in Ciudad Valles, then finally in Monterrey and Zacatecas, which denies being behind the killing of Cadereyta. "The Zeta Group disclaims all 49 quartered in Nuevo Leon and ask them (the authorities) that chequen well, do good work as it should. Not because they go and pull a truck with bodies with a message that the Zetas were going to stop doing their job, "noted the narcomensaje. Click Here to View. Another of the facts showing the divisions Zetas also happened in Monterrey, when state police arrested Juan Francisco Treviño Chavez, El Quico, nephew of Treviño Morales. Treviño Chavez was arrested along with his cousin Jesus Chavez Garcia afternoon June 12 at a mall in Monterrey by members of the State Investigation Agency (IEA). Treviño Chavez, 31, was in charge of the plaza of Nuevo Laredo and Monterrey reached to reorganize the group is still with them. Police sources reported that his capture was due to an anonymous tip that alerted members of the AEI, a corporation that never stops drug dealers of that caliber. After capturing the fact kept secret for two days until a leak to the media brought to light the case. Treviño Chavez was the second family of Treviño Morales arrested that day: the U.S. government had already captured the younger brother of the Z-40. |
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I've heard for sometime that z3 and z40 don't like each other. I'm not surprised at all.....if it's true.
z40 looks like an asshole.
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I heard this crap years ago and they are still lovers.
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Could only read a little bit before my head was spinning from the translation. How long have they supposedly been fighting?
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In reply to this post by WonderBread
for all you that speak spanish listed to the second video. I'm not sure who wrote it but if in fact it was written by a Z its pretty heavy.
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El Jefe,
Well, we are not sure if this story is true. There is so much 'spin' going on in Mexico that I don't know what to believe and what to discard. But for a couple years or more, I have been hearing on the Boards that these two hate and envy each other. Borderland Beat made a fascinating article about this (about a year ago?), that these two were running two different factions of the zetas and that they each ran their side differently, that Trevino was more envious of Lazca and that it was inevitable that they would turn on each other one day. I personally think that this story is pure propaganda by someone else but I believe in the speculations that z3 and z40 don't like each other. If I find the article about the feud between these two from the archives, I will post it later for you.
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I don't know, but back in May when those nine people were hung from that bridge in Nuevo laredo, there was a message commending Lazcano for kicking the ass of an "El Metro 4."
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2012/05/nine-bodies-found-hanging-off-nuevo.html |
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I think this could easily be propaganda BUT there are a couple things that seem weird. The first is that when Chapo addresses the zetas he write specifically to Z40. If he only did it once you could say it was just a one time deal, however this has happened repeatedly. Personally I think if Lazca and Z40 had things the way they always did chapo would address lazca.
I have wrote on previous threads that I would not be surprised if Lazca killed z40 himself. It seems like Lazca understands that blood is typically bad for business, and z40 is in fact far more violent and less stable than Lazca. Usually when that happens one of the two knock off the other. I thought for a long time that Lazca is the strong of the 2 but it seems like z40 would have a lot of people follow him in the split. If there was a split and one of the sides teamed up with the CDG and CDS that would literally create the most powerful cartel the world has ever seen. I think they would wipe out he rest of the zetas pretty quick, and they would succeed in defeating the BL/Jaurez group (especially when Mochomo got out) but that would take a while. It just doesn't seem like z40 and z3 really like each other. |
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Those two vids are both ancient.. Thats not what they are basing this assumption on are they? Pretty sure you would see blood and banners across mexico if they were going at it.. 303 does make a good point about chapo never adressing (not that chapo writes or even has anything to do with CDS banners) lazcano, always talkin shit @ z40 the car washing nut hugger as he has been called a few times..
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This article appeared in the latest issue of Proceso so there must be some truth to it...
http://www.scribd.com/doc/100140366/Proceso-1863 page 48 Lazca losing way more people than z-40...It's just a matter of time before the zetas split up and shit really hits the fan. |
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magic...
where did you get the text? we are getting quite a few complaints/comments on main board. obviously a translator was used...but too translate what? where is the spanish text?
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I'm thinking Historias del Narco? It was up yesterday with the same two videos.
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In reply to this post by Chivis
yea I used google translator which is not the best. Article was out of Proceso and Lapoliciaca
http://www.lapoliciaca.com/nota-roja/los-zetas-se-dividen/ |
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thanks...guess the boss was in a hurry, he is a master translator so its surprising. I am moderator now on main board and some of the comments were very rude! I only posted one or two nicer ones. but i think with the link I can say "here you ungrateful F_ _ _ _, do it yourself" nah thats my dream answer but I will be nice....paz, chivis
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LOL, Do it chivis, We all know howmuch time and effort it takes to translate something and make it 100% clear, I say fuck em let them translate themself or gtfo!
its simple to use google to translate and then scroll thru to fix up context n shit but i only ever do small paragraphs at the most..never this much text & dw bout the whiners magician but i still say the story is not based on much more than rumours.... We can dream tho right? zetas go at eachothers throat eh. Would be surprised if lazca is anywhere near mexico anymore. Too hot and hes toomuch of a pretty boy to live in that kinda heat
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I've always wondered if the CDS/CDG banners belittle Z-40 in an attempt to goad him into a fight with Lazcano. I remember one where it mentioned Lazcano lecturing Z-40 about problems. I would imagine Lazcano has a temper, but has better control due to his military training and if Mexican boot camp is anything like US boot camp then he already heard it all from his drill instructors.....
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In reply to this post by Misael
thanks so much!! got it.
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the original source is proceso..that gives a ton of credibility.,,,or should. I am going to try and get at it tomorrow for Buggs, he is super busy right now.
funny I don't think anyone complained on forum. we are such sweet angels here :) yeah I would love to say how I feel. I did allow one comment through so folks should see someone already commented...but no...the asses keep the comments coming throwing F bombs and everything...jeeze what fools. unappreciative fools at that. :(
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i may have missed it in the mess of text but does anyone know who number two in the zetas is? they often say lazcano is 1 and trevino is 3... whos in between?
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lol those guys pointing out spelling errors while misspelling words is funny.
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