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Was El Loko really a Zeta made to look like CDG?

ArmChairIntellect
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The massicre and decapitation of 49 people in Cadereyta, Nuevo León has recently been blamed on a CDG hitman and cell leader by the name of Daniel Elizondo alias "El Loco."  But the similarities between Daniel Elizondo and the last known Zeta plaza boss in charge of Cadereyta and Allende in the state of Nuevo Leon are quite striking.  What does all this mean and what does it tell us about the confusion that has become typical of the Cartel Wars?  Is this a new tactic being used by the Zetas?  Or merely a strange coincidence that only appears suspicious?  We may never know.  Will the truth come out or will this remain yet another murky conviction, hastily rushed through Mexico's shadowy Judaical System like so many other massacres in recent history.  If "El Loco" and "El Loko" are one in the same, then what could this mean?  Did he switch sides?  Did he go rouge?  Was this ordered by 40?  These implications are far reaching, and perhaps shows how corrupt the state of NL has become.  If the Zetas were able to manipulate both the government and the media it truly shows the state of this war which seems to have no end.



Here are several BB articles about the Zeta known as "El Loko"

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2011/08/14-mexican-cops-arrested-in-double.html
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2011/08/war-in-rural-nuevo-leon.html
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2011/08/el-loko-taken-down.html



Now think of the narcobanners, signed by Loco, 40, Lazca.  Strange right.....  
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adam
interesting,i was thinking el loco might of been with cdg(the metros)then joined the zetas recenetly.zetas might of asked him to this then use the fact he was cdg against him to blame the gulf cartel. it may explain why it was sighned "golfos" cos the zetas say they use "golfas"
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JohnnyOzone
I think that the old El Loko has nothing to do with it, he was killed last year and i think "El Loco" probably took that name because he did not want to be confused with "El Loko".

When the news of the massarce first came out one of the possibilites I commented on was that this was CDG trying to blame Zetas for another massacre. I mean look, even the last time they killed all the migrants found in the gracves, they actively tried to cover it up by putting them into the ground. The heat that brought the Z is still being felt by them today.

However as we have seen the Z is not a centralized criminal organization, and their inherent unpredictability means that they could have easily defied rationality and orchestarted this massacre.

What is obvious now is that we cannot trust what we see. I feel that this is a turning point, as now we really have a war on innocents along with a war on the cartels. Before it was thought only the z's with their unique viciousness would use innocents as massacre puppets, but it is obvious now that any side is capable and willing to kill civilans en masse to create unrest. A scary thought is what happens when this progression continues? From grenade attackss on innocent vendors to heat up the plaze, to 49 person massacres of random civilians, to what degree will this be allowed to continue.


A year ago we would have said, this is the Z for sure. Now as much as we want it to be limited to the Z, this could be anyone's work, CDG, CDS, Z, or federal gov.

Excuse the rant, the corruption and media misdirection from this tragedy really has hit close to me.
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adam
do people think this will change things in mexico?
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ArmChairIntellect
Its seems like the truth has always been allusive in Mexico, these major massacres never leave a satisfactory answer.  You never feel like there is closure, we will see if anything changes after the elections, that should be a good indicator of what is to come in Mexico.
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ArmChairIntellect
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Also from what I understand they made a mistake in confirming his death, they retracted it later that they ID'd the wrong guy that is referenced in the article.  Two got away, one may have been "El Loko," or perhaps he was never there and those were people within his cells, its very difficult to know when there is never a clear conformation of someone death.  To further prove my point, they never knew "El Loko" real name, you would figure with a clear confirmation they would be able to list his real name....
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blogdrugtrafficker is a clone of the Borderland Beat site that copies, word-for-word, EVERY POST that BB puts up. It's total BS and the bastards need to be shut down.
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Chivis
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 ACI  You must not have known.....please do not ever post anything from Blogdrugtrafficker!  or I will delete.
they use clone software to duplicate in sequence an exact copy of BB(main board).  We have tried to stop them but they are in Mx.  I know who it is...the same people who is the only blog named on BDT


Buggs translated the original article
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2011/08/el-loko-taken-down.html

the banners were not signed by el loko.  they were signed El Loco.


this is the banner left with the 49

Loko was killed almost a year ago.  

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ArmChairIntellect
Sorry Buela I didn't, I removed it.  
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At least there is a backup if the site -bB- ever gets DDOS'd for a period of time  :/

Wasn't the other Loko the one mentioned in No.1 Banda Jerez' Vato Loco ?

Anyways, crime scenes similar to this one will only increase in the number of dead victims because it's hard to relate the dead as being somebody's family member after having exceeded about 10.  The individuls are viewed simply as numbers and facts.  It's like in corporate America, when company headquarters request double and triple+ digit layoffs. Management doesn't feel remorse because they view the now unemployed as a number, and not with any emotion attributed to the names on the long lists.  It's how the brain works.  I'll have to search for the study, but it started happening around the 10 person mark

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AnAnonymousUser
Damn,  that's weird.  I never noticed that but it is 100% identical.  Usually Spanish sites are very similar among themselves, and English sites are a translated version...but blogdrugtrafficker is entirely identical
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Siskiyou_Kid
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Yeah, they're all from the same guy as BDN.
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badanov
Dunno if Blogger allows you to have a specific file to your document root, but there are several means to block the spiders/robots others use.
 
If he has access to his document root, then he can use  javascript to link to one of the two following php scripts to block  BDN spiders, or embed the routines into his blogger software.

http://alleducblog.blogspot.com/2012/04/how-to-block-ip-addresses-to-blogger.html
http://www.blogtechnics.com/blogger/script-to-block-ip-addresses-on-blogspot
http://www.tweakmyblogger.com/2010/07/blocking-ips.html
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Chivis
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I know....we did this and tried everything possible.  when we checked about 4 mos ago it gave the IP as MX  I contacted the blog server and they were very nice but said it is nothing they can control.  and for me to try perhaps contacting BDN.  I know that is useless.  Ove tried contacting a few sources connected to the blog/web provider but rec no answer.  

Mundo is BDN BTW

Here is what happened:

I was reading an article on the Stratfor website.  I was a subscriber (since I was one of the people whose CC info was published I have not continued my sub)

And I see a reference to a manta, and a translation and it looked super familiar.  Stratfor claimed the information was that of a blog called BlogDrugTrafficker.  I had not heard of the blog but I followed the link and was stunned to see Gerardo's post about the manta...and when I say Gs it was his exact post but no credit to BB or G.  I scrolled thru  the BDT and saw it was a an exact copy of BB I went back 2 mos...exactly the same and in sequential order.  I timed of how long it took for our posts to appear and it is about 3-5 min.  They do not have the ability to post videos for some reason, so any of our posts with vids has a blank space on theirs

If you notice I put Borderland Beat at the top of my posts and always write "Chivis Martinez for Borderland Beat" at the top for my original stuff.  well that is why.  when it copies and posts on BDT the BB remains...hee hee my little protest, getting bb credit one way or another.

Until then I never heard of software that clones a blog.  I begain googling and using yahoo for searching  if there were such an animal.  and yes indeed there is!  How that is legal is just beyond me.  But there are sources in which one can buy the software.  and if I recall the punk that runs BDN is a computer major at Mty Tec.

I told Buggs and a couple of reporters whats up.  I am sure no one believed me at first, but  then they looked,  as you have,  and were pretty much in shock also.  Buggs went back even further than I had...and now it appears that their entire blog was made to be a clone of BB from the beginning.  No other blog is used and no other posts.  Just us.

We are reprinted and reposted by tons of sources, as long as they credit source BB that is fine.  But understand that virtually all that is on Mundo and BDN is the work that is stolen from someone else.  They Never give credit unless in is accidently provided in the story its self.  I have plagiarism software that I can use to easily find original source of all their posts.  None is theirs.  Not to say they don't get vids and info sent to them now and then..we all do, but 99.999999% of theirs is the work of others.  I am going to start watermarking vids sent to us.  they do that on all the vids they post on mundo and BDN.  We got the 49 NL massacre vid fresh.  I wish I would have watermarked it.  


Back to my story.  So I wrote to Stratfor, I was professional and had attachments proving that BDT was a clone and the credit they gave was improper but that we had no doubt it was unintentional and without knowledge that BDT was stealing 100% of our posts and claiming it as theirs.  I just knew once they were aware of it they would react.  

They did not.

I wrote to a reporter that I provided information to when the Z200 thing broke in Guate he asked questions and I worked hard to get him good answers.  I also wrote to all departments that should have reacted and did not even get a reply.

Everyone should know that STratfor does not want us to post any of their material.  Recently Havana posted something and they were quick to write and say, in a nice way, to keep them out of our blog.  I took the opportunity to write to that person :) and say how happy I am that they are so concerned about such things but am puzzled why they would not care when they, perhaps inadvertantly, have use our material sans credit.  I attached a copy of my letter sent to them 4 times prior.  

That person has not replied either...jajajaja  
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Chivis
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Milo


How can you have read blogdrugtrafficker and say how great they are and not notice the posts are ripped off from us?   That they are an exact clone?

I am confused...yes they are the BEST source in the universe because they are a borderlandbeat clone.

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badanov
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I just sent their hosting company (softlayer.com) a copyright infringement notice for my bylined stories.
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Chivis
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ACI

of course i knew you didn't know...i just posted the entire behind the scenes ugly story.


and "Malo"  I am not familiar with those programs you listed, will that block them from cloning?  

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