Talibanes live on as Los Velázquez?

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Talibanes live on as Los Velázquez?

Bjeff
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I came across this article where prosecutor Enrique Villarreal Macías in Ciudad Juarez, mentions how the group of Los Velázquez are doing incursions into Chihuahua.

Can somebody verify that this bit says that Los Velázquez have come to strengthen La Linea in Jiménez, Parral and Camargo?

"Menciona un grupo llamado ‘Los Velázquez’ que es también una escisión pero del cártel de ‘Los Zetas’, que llegó para fortalecer a ‘La Línea’ en Jiménez, Parral y Camargo, pero buscan llegar a Juárez, según el informe que fue retomado por el sociólogo y representante del Movimiento de Regeneración Nacional (Morena), Víctor Quintana Silveyra."

Or is it saying that Los Zetas have come to strengthen La Linea?

Source:
http://diario.mx/Local/2014-05-13_3b84cf92/descarta-la-fiscalia-presencia-aqui-de-nuevos-carteles/

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I don't know if the origin of the El Taliban moniker have been mentioned here before, but to new readers and the people updating Wikipedia, this is wrong:
"As Velázquez Caballero ascended in Los Zetas, he traded his code name L-50 for the fearsome nickname El Talibán, a likely reference the decapitation techniques practiced by Los Zetas and to the Islamist militant group based in Afghanistan, the Taliban" (From Wikipedia)

It is actually “El Talivan” which is a play on words in Spanish that refers to his first name, Ivan, and literally translates to “The So-called Ivan”
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pilot
There´s no linea in Parral, they can't enter to Parral, in Camargo there´s only a few members of the linea but is full of kidnappers so when the police caught a kidnapper they say is from la linea, Cuauhtemoc is full of linieros, zetas has been only supporting sending members to Juarez but the police always capture them, the last year los zetas send 40 guys to Juarez to reinforce la linea, but they only last 3 days, they kill 4 or 5 municipales. Now with the capture of Jose Borunda, la linea in chihuahua state are weak, I think el harry potter is the now in the place of Jose Borunda,
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Bjeff
Thanks Pilot, but what does the sentence say?
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Itzli
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Since you are obviously well informed on what is going on in Chihuahua. I'm curious, was José Borunda Cárdenas a cell leader for La Linea or was he the top leader of the organization?
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Itzli
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It appears to say that Los Velázquez ie Taliban's group is reinforcing La Linea. I read a different article the other day that is even more confusing. Within Alertan por ingreso de nuevos cárteles al estado it states:

Sobre Los Velázquez, el informe los menciona en el apartado “Reorganización en el Noroeste”, e indica que todas las fracciones del cártel del Golfo, que está muy fraccionado y sus líneas de divisorias no son muy claras, parecen operar principalmente en Tamaulipas, Tampico y Matamoros, pero el grupo mencionado se ha fortalecido en Zacatecas.

El cártel de Los Velázquez se fortaleció en el 2013, su líder se encuentra en Zacatecas y opera desde el año pasado en Tamaulipas, Coahuila, San Luis Potosí, Nuevo León, Quintana Roo, Veracruz, Jalisco y Tabasco, en la mayoría actúa con saña.

La fracción de ese grupo lo llevó a alinearse con fracciones del cártel del Golfo y los Caballeros Templarios. Ahora es dirigido por los hermanos Rolando y Daniel Velázquez, y es el competidor más activo de los Zetas.

Ese grupo podría estar ya en Chihuahua

Con la lucha interna del cártel del Golfo, el nuevo liderazgo de los Zetas y la amenaza persistente de los Caballeros Templarios y la fracción de los Velázquez a Los Zetas en el estado de Tamaulipas, otros líderes de las fracciones del Golfo tendrán que decidir dónde colocar su lealtad, advierte Stratfor.

Esa situación podría dar lugar a alguna alineación con Los Zetas o el fortalecimiento de los vínculos con la fracción de Velázquez
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El"H"
los talibans are with CDG now tho they pretty much handed over zacatecas to CDG appart from a few citys

y would they back la linea who are allied with los Zetas

Although people really underestimate talibans power and it hurt the zetas alot when he switched sides he controlled so much territory and men and zetas lost alot of manpower terrtory and revenue from it
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ToPHeR
Taliban's brother, El Talibancillo or L-52, is now in charge of Los Talibanes
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Bjeff
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Really weird that Los Velázquez would reinforce La Linea. But Taliban's beef was with z-40 and with all the fragmentation of CDG going on, I guess this group could align anywhere, even back to Los Zetas.
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Itzli
It is very weird. I read the article I linked a few days ago, before you posted and immediately was inclined to dismiss it, however I don't like to completely ignore information just because it doesn't mesh with the way I understand things to be. So at the moment, I find it at best questionable information. It was quite obvious that L-52 was aligned with Los Metros, there was rumblings of him being active in Cancun, then everything has gone quiet. Like you say, they could align anywhere, even with Los Zetas again, stranger things have happened, but this is definitely a situation needing more clarification.
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ToPHeR
L-52 took control of Cancun for CDG when they switched over, but quickly lost it to a local group after the CDG cell got busted for taking out cabbies. I think the local group was Los Pelones? After that, they said L52 went back to either SLP or Zaca.
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El Plata
Los Talibans are under the CDG flag. I believe they are linked to the Metros faction. I know they act independently of the Metros. I was going to post this in the Mellado thread but I strongly believe Mellado and his crew acted in the same fashion. In that they are under the CDG flag but acted independent of the cartel. It seems to me that Los Talibans and Los Mellados groups acted much like their own franchises along the same lines as CDS has franchises. When L50 rejoined CDG it allowed them to get their foot into Zacatecas. Talibans people had just about complete control of that state and it wasn't until he went down that Los Zetas started challenging the CDG for control. I did not read the above article but I know for a fact that the CDG has group/faction in Zacatecas that refers to themselves as "La Linea" just like the Juarez cartel. I would think that if they are CDG in Zacatecas then they are linked to L52 and Los Talibans. To my knowledge they don't have anything to do with the Juarez cartel but again I didn't read the article.  
El que a cuchillo mata, a cuchillo muere.
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pilot
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Itzli wrote
Since you are obviously well informed on what is going on in Chihuahua. I'm curious, was José Borunda Cárdenas a cell leader for La Linea or was he the top leader of the organization?
Jose Borunda was a big boss in la linea, he is brother from Crispin Borunda, Crispin escape from a federal prision in anthony new mexico, in the 90s, then they grow up a lot of weed for a lot of years, then he was captured and stay some years in the prison of chihuahua, in 2010 he was transferred to the hospital cima and was rescued by a lot of linea members, a comboy of 20 trucks arrive to the hospital to rescue him, but in a few months he was recaptured by the army in a big shootout, then he was extradited again to new mexico. Then Jose took the place of Crispin, and he have a relative low profile in the past years, he have been hiding in ranchs in all the state, chihuahua, villa ahumada, cuauhtemoc, saucillo, etc. Last week members of the gente nueva try to kill him but failed but he was wounded and in the hospital they know they identity and call the PGR so he was send to the SEIDO.
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El"H"
So who holds more power in chih right now and is VCF even heard about these days?
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pilot
Gente nueva holds more power, and nobody mentions el viceroy even linea members, he is like a ghost
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1992dude
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El F1 of the metros faction is in charge of fighting for the zacatecas plaza.. CDG still hasn't taken over fresnillo and overall the authorities are still in Zs payroll
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El"H"
Also to the person sayin los talibans could rejoin zetas ,thats never gonna happen

40 hanged talibans sons in nuevo laredo and killed a bunch of his other family members
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El"H"
funny how 40 predicted pretymuch everything goin on with cdg rightvnow lol

this was a manta from him last year



Translation of Manta:


To all the Knights Templar (Caballeros Templarios) and dumb asses that have left with the stupid fag and mediocre El Taliban, you can all suck my dick. You are a bunch of fags that run in packs because one on one you all have sucked my dick and will continue to do so. You are a bunch of thieves, extortionists, and half dead hungry fucks, that don’t know how to confront me. Because when it comes to fighting you all suck my dick and are weak ass punks. You are traitors and remember he who betrays once, will betray twice, and all the times that are necessary. Till this day I have never turned in any of my partners. Whoever is doing wrong I’d rather fuck him up, so we are not traitors. I am loyal to the Letter and to Comandante Lazcano pussies. I’d rather die before being a traitor. Who was CDG are locked up. CDG is done. Tormenta dead. Mario Cardenas in prison. Costilla in prison. Metro 3 dead. R-1 dead. Sierra in prison. These were the leaders of CDG that we were fighting. The ones that remain in CDG are thieves, snitches, and pussies that are always doing stupid shit. And they're going to fuck each other up amongst themselves. El Gringo is going to want to fuck up M4 because there is no leader. What is left is secondary and third level guys and the ambition is gonna get to them. They're going to fuck each other up. That’s what happens when there is no leader to control them pussies, or I might fuck them up first, or the government will fuck them up. The Caballeros Templarios are a bunch of crystal meth addicts that are always charging avocado farmers quotas and even schools. So they don’t have room to say shit, much less talk about betrayals and shit like that. They are the same and they are killing each other. You already saw what happened with Chango and El Chayo and they're killing each other. So to me they are a bunch of fucked retards that get together because they ain’t worth a fuck by themselves. And even together they "suck my dick"! What fucking United Cartels (Carteles Unidos) and other bullshit names they call each other?

To me Carteles Unidos = eggs.

Carteles Unidos = scrambled eggs

So my message to the few dumb fucks that are left against the Letter from CDG, Caballeros Templarios and El Taliban is the following…

 
SUCK MY DICK ATTE: YOUR DADDY Z-40
WEAK ASS PUNKS*
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1992dude
Exactly H. The CDG is literally shooting themselves in the foot right now. Which other cartel has as much infighting and betrayals as the CDG? The only other incident I can think of that comes close to CDG infighting and betrayal is the CDS-BLO split. I wouldn't be surprised if Z's take control of all of San Fernando (as of now CDG controls the northern part of SF and the Zs the southern part) and a few towns in Frontera Chica. They've already lost north of Veracruz due to the fighting in Tampico. Chiapas too, Quinta Roo as well, and they can't even take Fresnillo due to all the in-fighting.
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ToPHeR
I've said it before on here, but I think Los Velasquez have their own route all the way from south to north based on news reports and captures. Remember the mensajes the Z left outside of Cancun accusing the governor of Quintana Roo of protecting his family? Follow that up to where Taliban himself was captured in SLP where he controlled a good amount of central Mexico. Also, around the same time he was caught they busted someone related to him up north in one of the border plazas (can't remember the relation atm??) and they were calling him the plaza leader. So basically Los Talibanes have their own pipeline.
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El Plata
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Nice find El H. It is crazy just how much of that manta has come to fruition. Many people made a big deal of that manta because Z40 claims R1 is dead in a matter of fact way. I thought El Taliban claimed that Z40 had his sons burned alive? Was it another Z50 family member who was hanged in NL? I could be wrong but I believe Taliban had a nephew or cousin who was a CDG Jefe while Taliban was still with Los Zetas. I believe he was relatively young and went by Diamonte. If im not mistaken he was captured by the marina. I know 50's brother 52 is running Los Talibans but are there anymore sons, brothers, or close relatives besides 52 involved? I remember the leaflets that were dropped when Taliban officially rejoined the CDG. His shortlived CDG faction was known as "Los Hijos del Diablo” I always found it interesting that the leaflets claimed an alliance with not only the CDG but with Caballeros Templarios as well. After his capture Taliban strongly denied an alliance with CT and went on to say that through his narco career he had never actually left the CDG and had always been a member. I have always wondered how he was captured. Did the CDG just use him for information and as a foot in the door to Zacatecas? Or was it that the goverment always knowing of his whereabouts, stepped in and arrested him before things with Z40 escalated any further? It was like a movie with all the twists, during those last few months when 40 and 50 were going at each other. It seemed like every single day there was a new development and I have to admit I couldn't put the paper down. It had to be one of the most interesting time periods of recent memory involving the cartels.
El que a cuchillo mata, a cuchillo muere.
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