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Great movie over all. You're right she was annoying after a while. Had me thinking shut up and go with the flow. Benicio did an awesome job. He also did really good in "Traffic" I'm thinking of going to see it again.
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Baja, If Sicario reminded you of the hurt locker, It must be pretty good.  That's one of my fav. movies.  I haven't yet seen Sicario, basically bc I didn't know it was out yet.  Benicio is one of the best actors out right now.  He reminds me of a younger Johnny Depp, before he started doing weird kids role's.  Has anyone every seen, "Things we Lost in the Fire,"  with Benicico Del Toro.  It is an excellent and inspirational film, except that Del Toro out acts everyone else in the movie by a mile.

If anyone has an easy, streaming, link to Sicario it would be appreciated.  
 
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Denis Vileunueve is one of the most talented newer directors I am aware of....I think everything he has made is worth watching, and with 'Sicario', he continues that trend, however, he also continues to make movies that are visually strong, well acted, and very well directed, with underwhelming stories, and scripts that are very lacking. 'Sicario' has so many strong elements to it, you wonder where the heart of the movie went. It makes some somewhat half hearted musings about the drug wars, and their origin, and effects on the people who live through them.....but ultimatley was a very predictable revenge thriller in the end, with a lot of over glamorized elements that hurt the movie, but don't detract from it's good qualities.

The geography and inter cartel politics is all off...and this is distracting and irritating to me, but for the average viewer, it will go unnoticed. The movies opening scene is dope as fuck, the score, the direction.....goes over the top with the discovery of 42 bodies, which to date has NEVER happened in the US, and likely never will. This is all part of a common thing in Hollywoods portrayal of the drug wars, taking a lot of headlines and kind of inserting them into a movie, whether they make complete sense or not....which I think takes away from the impact of the material.

I loved the Juarez scenes for the most part.....again, the directors ability to create tension is incredible. Juarez looked like Juarez, even if it wasn't shot there. I didn't like the very heavy handed and obvious, and also unlikely way they showed the horrors of Juarez in a quick ride through, conveniently witnessing the aftermath of a public hanging, and idling by missing posters of women....alluding to the femicides of Juarez. Felt a little cheap and easy for the subject matter. Made Juarez seem like a haunted house ride. Same with the look at Juarez in the aftermath. Looked like a video game. The shootout and rising action was dope as fuck. Very good work.

Del Toro's character....I am less impressed by the script and his role, then then acting, with his dead, haunted stare and delivery, Del Toro turns in a great performance. But, his character? A lawyer from Juarez.....turned assassin vigilante? Come on. There are enough fascinating stories in Mexico, to not invent outlandish bullshit.....then the whole Colombian thing....felt so Hollywood and cartoonish...let me give a quick analogy, VERY few of the murders in Mexico are committed by with silenced pistols, by men with tactical gear....they are dirty, brutal executions that take place in the street, taco stands, movie theaters, playgrounds, resturaunts, by desperate men who don't live very long, and aren't paid very much......this plays too much like a cheap Vin Diesel type thriller then a serious look at drug trafficking. If you want to say thats what he wanted to make, I would say you are wrong, because he throws in all sorts of philosophy and statements about the violence. Reminds me of 'A Man Apart', with much better acting and direction, but very much the same. You cannot compare this to 'Traffic' in any way.

I could go on, and I may later, I just wanted to get some thoughts down.....very, very strong elements in a subpar movie, and cant' transcend a weak script and lacking story. It didn't have the heart and wrenching brutality it wanted to.
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Hahahahahahaha Baja, Do you actually live in Baja?  If not Where the F do you live?!!  $5 dollars for a movie ticket sounds really nice, Id be at the movies all the time.  It costs $10-12 for a movie ticket where I live, $20 a ticket if you go to one of the fancy theatres with the big comfy chairs, lol.
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Haha, I can find a stream easily enough, I was just being lazy at the time.
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el Jesse James
Definitely gonna see this in the next few days. Far as cartel politics, I wouldnt expect very much considering they didnt even use real cartels like Traffic did... It would be nice if they did real groups though.

As far as del Toro suited up like James Bond, youve seen some of the Gente Nueva and CJNG/Matazetas pics right? Theyre armed pretty nicely.. suppressors shouldnt be too much trouble to get across the border. Training on the other hand... Ill just say that I doubt any more than a handful of sicarios(not including former military) across Mexico have the ability to put consistent hits on a torso target past 400 yards or so. Sure, most people can be rudimentally trained to make hits out to about 300 give or take, but past that and beyond the wind really begins to toss bullets around and it takes quite a bit of experience(whether its training or competition shooting) to accurately judge wind calls at 400+ yd.

Obviously thats not necessary for the most part though, Id say most cartel clashes(with effective hits being made) happen at 150yd or so, so time-consuming intense marksmanship training/experience is not truly needed.  
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el Jesse James
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After re-reading my post J, it sounds like I was disagreeing with you and thats not the case. I completely agree with you, most cartel hits are as you say, done by low-paid and low-skilled sicarios who are likely coked up during the job. All I meant was there is quite a bit of fairly nice weapons in the hands of the cartels and there are sicario groups who are kitted out fairly well. I wouldnt put it outside the realm of possibility for the highest paid and highest ranking sicarios to be able to get ahold of suppressors, eg the original Zetas were trained pretty well and with the resources at their disposal I imagine they had the ability to get ahold of NODs/NVGs(Night Optical Devices) and suppressors.
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Well, while my observations are accurate, I was using that as a metaphor, that the movie isn't as interested in the reality of the violence in Mexico, as it is in using it as an action movie backdrop....I do concede the director is not entirely insensitive to the subject, but he comes too close, too often.  Silencers and body armor vs murder and death for pennies in the slums....it's Hollywood vs. the streets of Juarez or Tijuana.  See the movie, and see what you think.  
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Yeah, for all the trouble it's nicer to buy it with your full auto, but of course they are kind of expensive. In most states you don't need a permit for machine guns, sbr's, or suppressors after you have completed all the federal paperwork.

On the other hand, for people who are criminals, parts are readily available and suppressors are really easy to build.
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