Remembering Alfredo “El Mochomo” Beltran Leyva

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Char
hi chivis this is interesting from my point of view the us does not have alot big charges and hard evidence against him, i feel he will get a couple of years but i have also the feeling that can happen with menchito similar to alfredo beltran leyva the us did not have alot to sentence him for a big sentence but since they wanted his brother arturo so bad and did not get him they took it out against alfredo so the us to send a message to mencho or since they know to get mencho will be almost impossible to bring to the us they will take on his son



Chivis

funny you should bring up alfredo---that is who I thought of when reading the indictment. That is what happened to alfredo, nothing before then when deciding to indict a standardized document appears. You are very wise, that is exactly how I read the alfredo case. arturo they wanted so badly but can't try the dead and alfredo was getting ready to be free after serving his sentence. he was never mentioned before not in any BLO or CDS indictment or by any witness such as the fores twins.

If they can't get the real target then someone close will do---or so it seems. Paz
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Char
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I remember that when El Mochomo was captured in Culiacán, Sinaloa, 2008, by Sedena Special Forces supposedly Mochomo was the plaza boss of Culiacán can anyone confirm this?

I also remember reading that El Mochomo was infiltrated by Top Tier Mexican Army soldiers acting as his bodyguards but obviously gave up his location. There is a corrido out there called El descuido del Águila saying that more than 100 military special forces personnel participated in his captured almost like the Tony Tormenta 2010 Navy operation. I think for sure probably so far the biggest military operation in Culiacán when El Mochomo was captured.

El Mochomo is still loved by people in Sinaloa.

Deelucky, J any opinions??
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Char
https://elperiodicodemexico.com/nota_impresion.php?id=202567


Don Arturo Beltran Leyva planned the rescue of El Mochomo
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Char
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Love you Chivis!!! Jaja i couldn’t make any comments on the other post but okay I guess I won’t mention my buddy Esliero anymore that will be the last time.
Sounds good about Mencho and Viagras.



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hope you read my comment before i deleted, i thought i better since i am in trouble already with him
 
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Podrido
Funnily enough not my place by any means but I was wondering if you were going to delete it!

Btw whatever happened to those articles you were thinking about writing on the Zapatistas? If you ended up publishing them where might one find them?
Just a lurker.
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Char
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Chivis

Yes I read “the reluctant narco” thank you:-)



If I could interview any Narco, It would be El Mochomo :) and Mencho.

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Oh good---i wrote it for you but then got to thinking and thought about it more that I better not post the info..  anyway I am hoping it will work out.  He is  very untrusting of journalists, he has never given an interview.
 
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Ciro
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On the book topic Mr Nice,and Hunting Leroux are both great reads but not mexican narco related.
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Chivis
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I know pretty stupid of me----just got carried away.  It is difficult holding all the info I have in.  I wish I could write a book just on the stuff I kept confidential.

I can say this, a family reached out to me during the zetas big trial in austin.  I had expressed that I thought brothers jesus and chevo huitron were factually innocent. jesus was acquitted but chevo convicted and a long sentence.  he won big on appeal however and the entire case against him thrown out.  he was fee.  he died last year.

I have kept in close contact with a family member who I am very fond of.  The family is very nice, hardworking, good people.  I was offered a bed anytime I am in town.

things like that happen.  I stop being surprised.  Except when my op-ed became a part of the chapo trial and submitted as evidence.  THAT was very surprising.  
 
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Podrido
@Chivis

I wouldn't say stupid at all, I'd think it is difficult to know what sorts of things are alright to share and what things are not, especially if you have access to so much information and inside accounts. Some of them seem to wish to tell their whole story while others are more private and others still too erratic to be able to predict. Sort of like navigating a minefield, I imagine.

That is very interesting though to see how vast your network of contacts is, both inside and outside of that lifestyle. That takes a lot of trust on account of both parties, and I suspect it has taken a long time to get to that point in your life!

As a journalist do you ever find yourself feeling unsafe or at risk for the sort of content you work on?
Just a lurker.
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I feel safe.  BUT I am always aware of my surroundings and on alert when travelling.
The only thing that causes concern is that if one of the parties and I don't necessarily mean narcos, discovers my double life.  I was high profile in latin america.  that said I really understand people in a way that outsiders can't possibly.   I was self righteous but now I have seen some of my foundation kids grow up, and knowing them s tiny fellows I have seen some transition into the life.  It breaks my heart for sure.  But also on some level I get it.  

there is a good thread on forum about solutions.  I have not weighed in because I wanted people to be free to speak their thoughts, but I do have some solutions.  that said, nothing will work until the 97 percent held hostage by the 3 percent pushes their way out of apathy.

there is a pretty good book by someone i think is ok and was in fox's cabinet---- yuk!....but he did write a great book  that accurately described the complacency and apathetic mindset of mexicans.  it is MAÑANA FOREVER?
 
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Anyone ever figure out who his compa on the right is?
It matters not how a man dies, but how he lives.
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We would LOVE (at least I would) your opinion Chivis on the solutions on organized crime!
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deelucky1
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culiacan dosnt have a plaza you have CDJ ,BLO,CDS ,people from sonora and some AFO that live there .BLo was charge of the acapulco airport shit hit the fan when they charged mayo and chapo for using the strip!then chapo and mayo get offended and send rey zambada too settle scores rest is history
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deelucky1
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two white cars men dressed in all black (la barbies cell) then they made some calls hummers and soldiers raided his house right after .
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los negros
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Chivis
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would anyone be interested in writing alfredo? email me.

char?  
 
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jaja  well i wrote it once on mainboard and it actually got good comments.  i was not a reporter at the time.
common sense solutions would be the foundation of my plan which would have federal elements, a new group, to take over municipal plazas  and on a rotating basis where an element would not work an assignment in a state more than twice in one year, to make corruption difficult and short trm.  any plan needs to concentrate on breaking up corruption on the municipal level.  corruption of Police is the most important element of narco organization in towns.  100 % of all border cities are narco driven and controlled. Calderon said this in his last month in office, he also estimated 25k bodies in fosas along the border

I will look for my plan
 
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