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Off topic:Venezuela has run out of food

canadiana
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Venezuela has declared a state of 'nutrition emergency' which means they have run out of food.There is not enough food to feed their 20 some million population.The mayor of Caracas said people are eating cats,dogs and pigeons so they can eat.All the farm land confiscated Maduro wants farmers to start farming it but of course that will take time.There's refugees spilling out to Columbia and people on rafts going to Aruba,Trinidad and Tobago.The government has melted down the metal and sold it from the many gas plants and oil infrastructure.This is crazy and I doubt Maduro will let in the UN or Red Cross to help.He blames everything on the US.People are starving and breaking into food stores.The owners will soon close them because of all the desperate looting then what?This is a perfect case of socialism gone wrong.It just doesn't work with corruption.Not enough money to go around.
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canadiana
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Totally agree with all of that Baja just didn't know what Dutch disease is.I only know what Dutch elm disease which is a tree disease.I can see total chaos in that country like civil war.I would guess it's totally dangerous even walking with a bag of groceries.Apparently a lot of the problem they say because it's communist the food prices are heavily subsidized so it's sold in neighbouring countries like Columbia on black market for very good profits[like dope I guess].They think 40 % of the food in Venezuela is for outside consumption and that explains a lot and that's why there is government quotas for food with some type of card that they track your purchases.
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canadiana
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Baja those 4 items you described for economic disaster could describe Mexico.
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Chivis
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canadiana....

off topic to your off topic....

one of the MB reporters has in draft a post about RX heroin soon becoming an option for doctors to use to treat addiction.  I did not read the entire post which is actually 2 articles but it looks pretty interesting.

do you think this will come to pass?  looks like it according to the press.  
 
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canadiana
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Sure sounds like Texas and Alberta.
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canadiana
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Is this in my country?I haven't heard of this but there's methadone programs everywhere?Would it be similar?Guess I will have to wait to read the article when it's posted.That would sure eliminate the cartels herion but hey it's not like herion is the only game in town?If it is coming to Canada I bet it would be Vancouver as that's where herion is king[and BC bud].
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NorCal
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The book Chasing the Scream  by Johan Hari touches on the history of using Prescription Heroin to her battle heroin addiction.....it has been done in several countries




http://chasingthescream.com
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Chivis
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Yup, your country.

The draft is done.  Let me text him and ask if I can publish it.  

I think Canada is WAAAAY ahead of the US on this.  People that do not believe that street drugs should be legal should ask their doctor what he/she thinks.  My doc at USC follows BB and so does his son, the father is chief of the department and he told he when I asked his position "give it to them"  I said how about heroin?  he said "give it to them".  he said studies show that if the addict is comfortable in the fact that obtaining the drug will not be a problem, he/she will actually use less.  

My brother was a functioning heroin addict for years, being clean only the year before his murder.  He worked  and functioned well, he was married with a baby and a normal life other than his addiction.  so I know it can be done.
 
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el Jesse James
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I'm curious to hear about your brother, buela. If you're comfortable sharing, what was the circumstances of his murder? Sorry for your loss..
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Chivis
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My brother's story was a sad tale from the beginning.  But from the murder itself spun a tale that is even more incredulous all these years later.  The motive for the murder was simple enough, money owed, a settling of scores.  He owed money and when his wife became pregnant he could not repay fast enough for the guy calling the shots.  

His former longtime girlfriend, went undercover and was able to glean enough information that the DA brought murder charges against the pig who ordered my brother killed then sat and watched my brother being murdered,  while drinking a beer.  Then they stole his watch, wedding ring and even his shoes before dumping his body in a field.  A 13 year old girl found the body on her way to school.

The killer was acquitted in a  10-2 verdict (2 not guilty).  One of the two said they just could not convict beyond a reasonable doubt.  We know how the Ron Goldman family felt at OJs verdict.  Killer moved to Texas where he was convicted of killing a 17 year old girl.

My brothers baby daughter was 3 mos old when he was murdered.  

She grew up to become a FBI agent and later DEA, she worked in DF for over 3 years.
 
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canadiana
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Wow so his killer walked?And he was killed over money even though he was paying it back but just not fast enough?And he had cleaned up his life a year previously and was done with dope?How tragic and what a waste of a life leaving his daughter fatherless at such a young age?If I was the killer I would be more inclined on trusting a debt be paid after the guy had gone straight.Boy your brother paid the ultimate price for his drugs.How old was he?
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ElMello
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IMHO I've seen people many with borderline untreatable conditions (ie. persistent migraine etc.) for whom opiate use can be the only way to improve their quality of life. The dependence/addiction cycles that go with it are the danger; not the necessarily the opiate itself. I've got to say though at the moment our understanding of drug use and human consciousness is nowhere near complete and there are so many more ways we ought to improve our understanding of how sometimes something which temporarily dulls the senses can be a *good* thing but we all need to work out to a fine fraction of a second when this *good* is no longer needed and the dulling effect can be safely removed. Putting people on drugs for many months or years is going to have long term effects on the psyche, so balance must be maintained. It strange to see how sometimes dulling a person's sense can bring them "back to life" so to speak. Doctors medics etc. sometimes can and do exploit people in pain by withdrawing treatment in order to demand things or even hurt them. Maybe situations like this in medicine are on aggregate a sign of how incomplete our knowledge of the human psyche, pain, trauma, treatment, withdrawal, sleep, peace, happiness, health etc. actually is? Some of our medics think they are Gods and know everything when in fact we are like only on the first rung of the ladder in terms of how deep our understanding of pain / pleasure and energy systems in the brain and CNS work. Crazy. Then again maybe these kinds of technologies are just plain dangerous (as in junkies robbing ladies for smack) and we should forget our human ideas of "one size fits all" and respect peoples' individuality and let the patient decide what?
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Chivis
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A settling of scores doesn't take into account changes in ones life, a deal is a deal.  He was held up as an example.

My bro was 26 years old.

His daughter looks so much like him, I tried to teach her about her father, he was an artist, golden gloves boxer later sparring partner to wold champ mando ramos (lightweight) and jazz musician wind and percussion.

He also suffered from dyslexia, which was the downfall really.  Long story.  I thought of writing a book about it all, but it was just too close emotionally.  I was forever grateful to his former GF, they were jr high and HS sweethearts, he married someone else, but she remained close to the family.  What she did for the case was more than I would do for anyone. So damn dangerous.  as it was, she moved to NorCal after the trial, she was afflicted with cancer in her 30s, she was pretty much penniless.  I made sure she was well taken care of until her death.  She was taken back to SoCal for her burial, I bought a plot for her across from my brother.  in the same section as Jenni Rivera is buried.  
 
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Mexico-Watcher
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Chivis..... Thanks for sharing your brother's tragic story.  

As many of us cynics understand, "justice" everywhere is a "commodity"  that must be purchased and seeking it is often uncertain because  of forces and influences we poor "smucks" are powerless to do anything about.  Yes, the OJ Simpson case is a graphically revealing example whereof I speak.  

At least in Mexico and other places, common folks understand the above... and this leads to a host of social adaptations that make sense to them.....    

Mexico-Watcher
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canadiana
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Thanks for sharing Chivis.Also tragic for the ex girlfriend what happened to her at such a young age but that was something no one had control over.At least your beloved brother is with her and I'm glad you were able to look after her in her final days for all she had done for your brother.Too bad also the killer got off because it would have prevented another untimely death of that 17 year old girl that would have never happened.The guy that ordered it did anything happen to him?
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Chivis
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The guy who ordered the hit is who was charged with the murder along with the POS who actually did the deed.  they both stood trial. There were 5 other "witnesses" to the killing. The teen was a run away prostitute working for my brothers killer in south Texas where her second killing happened.(I am sure there were others)  After the trial in SoCal the killer moved his operation to south Texas where originally came from.

On a side note, I credit my brother for me never even dabbling in drugs.  I was a kid of the 60's and clubbed in the wild 80's drugs were so prevalent, it was truly difficult not to abide because of pressure from those who did...which was just about everyone.  Cocaine in the 80s was as common as a Coors.  My bro threatened me and talked straight with me.  We were super close and I listened to him.  Honestly, it was fear.  I was afraid, that  if i tried it, chances are I would have become an addict also.  And finding my brother unconscious  from OD and helping kick cold turkey a few times was enough for me.  I wasn't this perfect kid, but I was scared straight.  for sure.

My kids  were told my brothers story as soon as they were old enough to understand, and i shared the newspaper clippings with them.  I was pregnant at the time of the murder and named my child after my brother.

My kids never had issues with drugs, but I always worried.  

Let me know if you hear anything further about the RX Heroin for addiction.  I think it is brave and smart of canada.  As I said I have seen how an addict can be completely functional using.  It is about using to get high, or using to not get sick.  Someone using to the point of nodding off is not a functional human being.  
 
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