NEW:ATTACK WAS TO DISRUPT CARTEL FINANCES-AMAZING SECURITY CAMERA FOOTAGE; 53-61 DEAD

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NEW:ATTACK WAS TO DISRUPT CARTEL FINANCES-AMAZING SECURITY CAMERA FOOTAGE; 53-61 DEAD

Chivis
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Sat- 8/27 see updated story at bottom of post-hypothesis of disruption of cartel finances...makes sense
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sat 8/27....video new post
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U59TPGWWE9E&feature=player_embedded&has_verified=1
video of security camera footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDyh63wX5gw&feature=player_embedded
                                                                                                                                                                                               photo is of employees the day after

you can see the vehicles arrive.  
3 are light colored suv and sedan and mini cooper
1 black chevy truck
in the bed of the truck is the 3 large containers of fuel
:23 bus drives by casino,   truck is 3rd vehicle behind bus, it pulls up towards front but decides to allow the  cars  to drive in first so he pulls forward in haste causing him to drive up on the curb.
:45 to :53 mini cooper drives in motor court, followed by the equinox suv
1:08 Truck backs up & enters motor court as a sedan pulls forward from the left side of "Y" & stops
1:23  All rush out their vehicles, grab containers and enter through the side doors, 2 hawks     stayed behind
        by the mini cooper. People inside the casino senses something is up and begin to rush out     (UPDATE:
        LATER REPORTS FROM INSIDE SAID PERPS CAME IN SCREAMING THEY WERE GOING TO BURN THE
        PLACE DOWN AND EVERYONE GET OUT)

2:47 Smoke is seen as mini cooper leaves
3:05  cars leave
3:09  Truck leaves

Time elapsed for the dirty deed...   2 minutes and 30 seconds....Paz, Buela
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NOTE:  UPDATE FROM MILENIO NEWS IN MONTERREY SAYS 53+ DEAD AND 10 INJURED AND DOZENS STILL TRAPPED. THE FIRE THAT RESULTED FROM AN EXPLOSIVE AT CASINO ROYALE....

OFFICIALS NOW HAVE RETRACTED THEIR STATEMENT OF A BOMB OR GRENADE EXPLOSION SAYING THE GUNMEN SET FIRE TO THE GASOLINE THE DRENCHED THE CASINO IN

BDN IS REPORTING 61DEAD       VIDEO ROUGH  FOOTAGE:         

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-14674706
SLIDE SHOW FROM UNIVERSAL:

VIDEO FROM UNIVERSAL Mexico:  

http://www.eluniversaltv.com.mx/detalle.php?d=25212 

  http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/788739.html

MONTERREY, Mexico -- Gunmen burst into a casino in the northern city of Monterrey on Thursday and doused the premises with a flammable liquid, starting a fire that killed more than 20 people and left a dozen injured, authorities said.

The fire at the Casino Royale in Mexico's third largest city and industrial hub represented one of the deadliest attacks against an entertainment center in Mexico since President Felipe Calderon launched an offensive against drug cartels in late 2006.

State police officials said at least two men drove up in front of the casino in a prosperous part of Monterrey and carried out the attack. Fire quickly engulfed the casino, sending dense smoke shooting from the building.

Initial reports said 11 people had been killed, but emergency personnel and firefighters continued to find bodies in the casino building. Medics treated the victims for smoke inhalation.

Monterrey Mayor Fernando Larrazabal told the Milenio television network that "the information I have is that there are more than 20 people" dead in the attack.

State police officials initially said witnesses reported hearing three explosions before the fire started, but later said that a flammable material was used. The officials were not authorized to be quoted by name for security reasons.
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NEW POST OF SATURDAY 8/27/11
ANALYSIS OF MOTIVE:  ATTACK WAS TO DIRUPT CARTEL FINANCES  (ALWAYS SEEMED LIKELY TO ME
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Summary

Unidentified attackers set fire to the Casino Royale in Monterrey, Nuevo Leon state, on Aug. 25. The incident was likely the result of cartel rivalries in the city, rather than an intentional act of terrorism, and it serves as an example of how cartels will attempt to disrupt their rivals’ sources of revenue. Moreover, the high death toll suggests that the removal of cartel leadership with military training is adversely affecting the cartels’ operational ability.
   
Analysis

An unknown number of attackers set fire Aug. 25 to the Casino Royale in Monterrey, Nuevo Leon state, leaving 53 people dead, according to Nuevo Leon Gov. Rodrigo Medina. Reports indicated that 12 people were injured, and Attorney General Leon Adrian de la Garza said more victims could be forthcoming. The Mexican government announced a deployment of 500 soldiers to catch the perpetrators. A video account shows a number of individuals exiting vehicles at approximately 3:30 p.m. before entering the casino, and smoke was seen emanating from the building minutes later. The attackers allegedly ordered everyone out of the building before dousing it in gasoline and setting it on fire, and conflicting reports suggest they used Molotov cocktails, guns and/or hand grenades in the attack.
 
Mexican cartels value casinos as a means to launder money and generate revenue through legal gambling practices. Because of this value, casinos are obvious targets for cartels attempting to disrupt the financial operations of their rivals. STRATFOR believes this is the most likely motive behind the attack, rather than retaliation meant to inflict mass casualties. Moreover, the sloppiness with which it was conducted indicates a decreased operational ability in drug cartels whose highly trained leaders have been killed or arrested.
   
Reports that the attackers ordered the building to be evacuated are significant. Such an order suggests the casino itself was the target. If the attackers intended to cause mass casualties, they would not have given the warning and would have used another method to maximize casualties, such as a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device or even small arms fire. Most of the victims had reportedly run upstairs or locked themselves in bathrooms instead of fleeing. The emergency exits were also reportedly locked, meaning those trying to flee through alternative exits were trapped, resulting in the high casualty count.
 
Attacks on infrastructure are common tactics for the Gulf and Zetas cartels, which are actively fighting for territorial control of important hubs for drug- and-human smuggling operations — Monterrey is one such hub. Interestingly, simultaneous grenade attacks took place on casinos in Saltillo, Coahuila state, and Reynosa, Tamaulipas state, on Aug. 24. The attacks are believed to be the work of Los Zetas. According to information obtained by STRATFOR, businessman and former Tijuana Mayor Jorge Hank Rhon and the Caliente Group operate all three of the casinos that have been attacked. Therefore, the possibility that one cartel is conducting a coordinated campaign to disrupt revenue flows for its competitor cannot be ruled out. By instilling fear and lowering the number of patrons that visit these establishments, they could adversely affect the controlling cartel, especially at a time when any disruption to capital is a major problem for them.
 
The attack on the Casino Royale illustrates just how chaotic the situation in Mexico has become. This sort of attack suggests cartel leaders are losing control of their subordinates and supports our assessment that the loss of leaders with military training and experience, especially in the case of Los Zetas, is creating a more unstable and violent environment. If the attackers intended to minimize casualties, this attack shows poor planning by cartel management or poor operational tactics by the gunmen who carried out the attacks. Sophisticated operators would have known that the emergency exits were locked and that people would panic and run away from the attackers, who would have been the most obvious threat. If the attackers were unconcerned about casualties, or if they intended to kill as many innocent people as possible, then this attack could be another step in the devolution of the violence in Mexico.
   
The cartel responsible for the attack can expect blowback from Mexican security forces, the general public and from a rival cartel. If the attackers did not follow the plan laid out by their superiors, they could be killed for the high death toll. If this is the case, the cartel will want to publicize the fact that they have taken care of the perpetrators and let it be known that innocent civilians are not targeted for attack
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calderon on twitter:   Estos repudiables actos nos obligan a todos a perseverar en la lucha contra esas bandas de criminales sin escrúpulos. Todo el apoyo a NL.(Calling for everyone to help NL)

link to his twitter page:  http://twitter.com/#!/FELIPECALDERON




LINK:

http://www.realclearworld.com/news/reuters/international/2011/Aug/25/attack_on_mexican_casino_kills_20.html
 
YOU WILL NEED TO USE A TRANSLATION TOOL FOR THIS LINK:

http://mx.reuters.com/article/topNews/idMXN1E77O21V20110826?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0

LINK

 http://www.elpasotimes.com/newupdated/ci_18758488
 
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J
Damn. So sad, I don't even want to comment anymore, cuz the words sound so trite and unconvincing.  This is awful though.   Probably CDG.  Can't see why Zeta's would want to attack a casino in their own territory, unless this has descended into a Juarez where both groups control sections and have retail drug outlets and businesses.  Extortion is another reason.  
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Chivis
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I know what you mean J.  I began the post at 2 dead-quickly that turned to 8 then 11 then 20- etc
at 52 I am finding i have to stop, emotionally spent am I.  

it looks like the number will be huge.  lots of ladies in there old young from all age groups, mx ladies love casino.

as for cdg or zetas....at this point i don't give a fuck.  i can't get pass the reality of what happen, the images, the sadness.  maybe tomorrow i will care, not today, my today is all for the victims.  may they R.I.P /D.E.P  
 
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Chivis
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THE TOLL WILL CLIMB.

OFFICIALS HAVE RETRACTED THEIR EARLIER STATEMENT THAT GASOLINE WAS POURED BY THE GUNMEN AND THEN SET ABLAZE BY AN EXPLOSIVE.
 
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EL Gordo
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any pics of the bodies?
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Chivis
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JESUS GORDO...

I HAVE POSTED THE BEST OF WHAT IS OUT THERE AND I CONTINUE TO SEARCH ALL SOURCES.
THEY COVERED THE BODIES AS THEY EXTRACTED THEM...A FEW OF THE PICS SHOW THAT.  OUT OF RESPECT..YOU KNOW?  

THOSE TRAPPED INSIDE WILL BE CHARRED AND BURNED TO SKELETAL

HEARTBREAKING, HUH GORDO?
 
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Cat
No words will probably make you feel better about this. Just know that I am, in my heart, in tune with the sadness. This isn't even my country, but dammit, why must all of this, the drugs, the greed, the violence, be so overwhelming? So invincible? It makes me feel sick.
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Chupacabra
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I live about 5 minutes from there.  I saw this carnage first hand.  Crazy stuff.
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Guerro
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I saw this shit too. Not to far from where I live but those people kinda had it coming. Everyone knows that the casinos launder money for los Zetas. Casinos in Mtty had been getting attack lately so they knew that and put themselves in that position what more do I need to say?

Oh I guess now Buela I'm going to be anti mexican right grandma jaja.

And as for Gordo, don't worry bro i will stop by later today and bring you some pictures but no bodies. Just damage alright.
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Chivis
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any thoughts on who, and why?

I am ready to tackle that puzzle, I think it was CDG.  

It was not to kill, or terrorize though naturally that manifested with the act.

no, I think this was 100% business.  To weaken and gain.

I can't imagine seeing the consequence of the evil deed.  

Did you happen to hear if it was largely women at the casino?

So sad
 
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Guerro
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J your smart. It was CDG. But it was for two reasons: first the CDG has completely lost Mtty, they havent even made a foothold. So they commit a terrorist act to send a message to the Federal government so they can send troops to kill the Zetas. Pretty much heating up the plaza. I dont know if you live in Mexico but Calderon is fucking mad, I never seen the little guy be so mad on national tv, he sent some harsh words. So of coarse he gonna send in the la Marina to open a can of whoop ass on the Zetas because its their territory and CDG just gonna watch and laugh. Just like El chapo is doing with la linea and DEA. Second casinos launder Zetas money so to hurt them financially.
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J
I think CDG does have a presence in Monterrey though, much more so then Zeta's in Reynosa or Matamorros.  They are all over the countryside in Nuevo Leon, doing the tit for tat with Zeta's, they are hanging bodies from the bridges in Monterrey, broad daylight, and just the other day had 30 gunmen shooting in the air and blocking off traffic.  I think they have an offensive foothold their, not a financial or monetary presence, but for fighting the Zeta's, I think they have a position.
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El Regio
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Yes it was CDG.... Zetas responded last night by attacking two casinos in Saltillo and Reynosa!

CDG kills innocent people!
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CDG DID ALL THE CASINO ATTACKS-IMO- AT 61 DEAD AND 35 TRAPPED IN ATTACK ON MTY CASINO-VIDEO-FOTOS

Chivis
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Hold your horses joven...i was writing a post about it but damn work is interfering today.
my staff is at lunch now...so lets speak.

CDG for sure did Maderos casino in Mty.  You know it is owned by the cousin of Gustavo Madero natl president of PAN party....

BUT sorry, Zs did not attack saltillo.  There were two attacks of the Caliente Casino in saltillo, one the night before the Royale attack.  I was just researching everything for a timeline and hypothesis.  

wed night in saltillo Hank Rohn's Caliente Casino was attacked but the grenades were duds, I saw the photo and they were pathetic.  Armed men stormed the casino threw the grenades...and nada.

the next day the Mty horror

then shorty before midnight armed men came back to the saltillo casino and the explosive denoted causing minor injuries and one person hospitalized.

also yesterday a casino, i THINK also owned by Rohn was attacked in Torreon.

for you that do not know Rohn was the former mayor of TJ and was in a bit of trouble recently but as most often the norm, he was released and charges dropped.

so we have three logistical targets, all in Zeta country.  and deemed by those who are knowledgeable in these things as all related to one source.  it makes more sense when you think about it.

for Zetas to do a "retaliation" they would have to be mind readers as the first attack was the saltillo casino on wed

I am thinking it is all CDG.  and  my theory is there will be attacks on zeta casinos to cripple the ability to launder money .  Mty and the surrounding area has 36 of the 40 casinos in no east mex.
and who has mty?  so that is powerful shit.  to really hurt Zs simply find a way to compromise $$$ and hitting the casinos will close the ability to wash at least half their profits, maybe more, I need more time to do the math.  I need a couple more hours to research but I may not do it until tonight.

I may be wrong, but I think I am on the right track..  thats my daily "DOS" but i will finish a post later with respect to this.

and yes Reg...ALL CARTELS ARE EVIL BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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Message from Obama- 61 DEAD AND 35 TRAPPED IN ATTACK ON MTY CASINO-VIDEO-FOTOS

Chivis
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From President Obama:




The White House

Office of the Press Secretary


 For Immediate Release

August 26, 2011


Statement by the President on the Attack in Mexico


 I strongly condemn the barbaric and reprehensible attack in Monterrey, Mexico yesterday.  On behalf of the American people, our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families at this difficult time.
 
The people of Mexico and their government are engaged in a brave fight to disrupt violent transnational criminal organizations that threaten both Mexico and the United States. The United States is and will remain a partner in this fight.  We share with Mexico responsibility for meeting this challenge and we are committed to continuing our unprecedented cooperation in confronting these criminal organizations.
 
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DD
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Buela, do you know who owns the casino in Sabinas?
Words are powerful weapons, be careful how you use them.
DD
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DD
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The US govt. (IRS) owned and operated a whore house in Nevada at one time, the result of a seizure for failing to pay taxes.  Doesn't Mx. have seizure and forfeiture laws on the books now without having to pass something through Congress.  Targeting the casinos and shutting down one source of money laundering seems like a very effective way of hurting the cartels where it counts --in the pocket book.  Teams of forensic accountants combing through all the books and records should be able to turn up real ownership and sources of funding and where the profits are going.  After they seize them, let the Feds run them and use the profits for something constructive to benefit the people.  If the US govt. can run a whore house, surely the Mx. govt. can run gambling establishments.
Words are powerful weapons, be careful how you use them.
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DD
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Are Rohns casinos concentrated in any particular cartel territory?
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