Mexico's out of control criminal market

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deelucky1
Us always needs their fix
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Ricky Churches
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Can drugs be transported to the US without killing any Mexicans? The obvious answer is yes. There is absolutely no need to kill anyone to be able to deliver drugs to the US.

And because the US need their fix that somehow makes it OK to extort fellow Mexicans and their businesses?
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Ecolvm
Can drugs be transported to the US without killing any Mexicans? The obvious answer is yes. There is absolutely no need to kill anyone to be able to deliver drugs to the US.

No

From production until the product reaches the US, there are risks

Killing people is the solution to avoid product theft during transport.

And I talk about drugs from anywhere in the world.

Read the story of Freeway Rick Ross
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Ricky Churches
They're killing people because they want to be the only ones selling and transporting. They fight over control of corridors and plazas. Theft is way below on their things to worry about. Fights over plazas is not about theft, it's about greed. Let's say it was over theft, the ones stealing are stealing because if greed not because Americans have a thirst for drugs.

Mexicans to do plenty of drugs as well. They fight and kill over who sells to them as well. It's the "me and only me mentality that can sell drugs" that gets people killed not the consumers fault. People have been doing drugs for as long as people can remember, there was never the amount of violence and grotesque violence there is in Mexico.

Afghanistan has been known for their heroin production. Do they the number of homicides México has every year?  20 years ago, there were Americans doing plenty of drugs, Juárez was not even half as violent as it is today. No one was decapitating people hanging people from bridges.

It's the greed from one cartel to backstab another to take complete control of sales. Drugs are sold and transported in the US as well, drug dealers are not doing the same things over there that cartel members are doing here.
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deelucky1
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Your obviously unaware the plaza is bought from State officials .state of Nayarit was cespool not too long ago . Good start for Mexico is getting rid of the municipal police force . Us needs to help Mexico create jobs not drugs.
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deelucky1
And too show you who really call shots go back to the 42. disappeared .that had nothing to do with plazas or street sales .
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Ricky Churches
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So now the corruption is the Americans fault too?

People act like if Americans didn't do drugs México would be free of criminals. Look, America is full of criminals in and out of jail/prison and most Americans blame the system and ask for reform. It would be the same if people were to say, the reason we have so many prisoners is México's fault. It'll be a game of just blaming each other without actually doing anything about it. The level that cartels take their level of brutality is not the Americans fault! There was was drug consumption in the 70s, 80s and 90s México did not have the level of violence it has today. Then on top of that you add the corruption at every level... and why is there corruption? GREED!

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Re: Mexico's out of control criminal market

Ecolvm
So now corruption is also the fault of the Americans?

Yes, his taste for drugs and drug money, which is filtered through banks, is a business.

If that doesn't tell you anything, any explanation is superfluous

The Arellanos as another cartel stole merchandise from Colombians and other groups.

And Colombians in Mexico stole shipments

Of course, greed for money is the main problem, however each year his drug use increases, and it is obvious that he will not stop, not even legalizing marijuana.
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Ricky Churches
Just like a drug addict, you're not going to get anywhere until you accept personal responsibility. Under no circumstances is it OK to decapitate your fellow, our fellow countrymen because another person likes to do drugs.

Of course it's easy to blame others instead of fighting the government, the people who profit the most and suffer the least consequences, the corrupt ones. The guy you're decapitating is also struggling to earn a living, getting payed 5000 pesos every two weeks if that. While the government itself profits from drugs and steals from the poor, the communities, the country. But hey, let's all blame the Americans. That's why this country will never change. Quite pathetic that people will take up arms against their own countrymen fight for other cartels but will not fight for its own country.
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deelucky1
Best interest for us ,Mexico and Canada work together boost up their economy as it has in the past
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deelucky1
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Look at that brand new spanking new  equipment fethynil users in the US  bought China !! Lol
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Ricky Churches
You do know it's the cartels who directly give China money for fentanyl? If the cartels didn't purchase it and deliver it to the US how would American get their hands on it?

Gotta be greatful these cartels go out of their way to go buy fentanyl, smuggle it into Mexico, then smuggle it to America just so the American drug users can be well taken care of. /sarcasim
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deelucky1
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HSBC bank follow the trail and you will do full circle. HSBC bank in  in the US and it's political ties .like I said US needs to stop helping Mexico make drugs and  make jobs instead .
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deelucky1
Us uses Panama too hide thier fine jewels Russians like to follow
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deelucky1
Gilliad sciences remember that name it's about to bank big in the US
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PSBNY619
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HOLD UP...
If you are going to yell and be so obnoxious then please speak with some credibility and knowledge when you argue with people about your personal opinions and not the facts.
I know you have been around for a while, but you are talking through your teeth and spreading a msg which is not factual at all.
The reality is, one may point the finger at any Country in the World and stand behind why they are correct in blaming them and guess what...who cares, its  little late for the blame game and it does absolutely no good, it carries as much weight as when someone in our White House cowardly blames others out of self centered fear, ignorance and ego and it sounds like BLAH BLAH BLAH.
Placing blame continually like this, then making statements as fact, but that are personal opinions and very far from fact, it just gets ugly deelucky1. Your credibility gets questioned, and you become part of the problem, not the solution.
Before taking such a stance with others, especially at a time like this when we all need to take a second to breathe, think, and communicate honestly with our community, or we WILL get no positive traction, ever.
The fact is HSBC has been (just like countless other major banks Worldwide) involved in many questionable activities, the largest of which they were fined $1.9 billion due to allowing laundering for the Sinaloa Cartel in Mexico, and Norte del Valle Cartel in Colombia and also involved Saudi Arabia, Iran, Cuba, Sudan, Libya and Burma and many others.
This is just one example and you can learn more about it here on the Netflix movie about this:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/netflix-documentary-re-examines-hsbcs-881-million-money-laundering-scandal-2018-02-21

Here is the D.O.J. press release on the investigation:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/hsbc-holdings-plc-and-hsbc-bank-usa-na-admit-anti-money-laundering-and-sanctions-violations

And I hate to break it to you and we know that you think HSBC is only in the US (not sure where you got that info) but there are more facts for you:
"HSBC Holdings plc is a British[6] multinational investment bank and financial services holding company. It was the sixth largest bank in the world in 2019, and the largest in Europe...
HSBC has around 3,900 offices in 65 countries and territories across Africa, Asia, Oceania, Europe, North America, and South America, and around 38 million customers..."
Here are the facts for you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSBC

Under subsidiaries section (owned and operated by HSBC) you will see "HSBC México"
Since you told us they are not in Mexico, I wanted to point out that information was just a little off, close, but not even really:
"HSBC México, S.A., the principal operating company of Grupo Financiero HSBC, S.A. de C.V., is one of Mexico’s four largest banking and financial service companies, with 1,400 branches and 5,200 ATMs...."
Some of their other names they go by in Mexico are:
"Other Mexican Operations
HSBC México, S.A. Institución de Banca Múltiple (Bank)
HSBC Seguros, S.A. de C.V. (Insurance)
HSBC Afore, S.A. de C.V. (Pension Fund)
HSBC Fianzas, S.A.
HSBC Casa de Bolsa, S.A. de C.V. (Stockbroker)
HSBC Operadora de Fondos, S.A. de C.V.
HSBC also has a 19.99 percent stake in Financiera Independencia, S.A. de C.V. and its affiliate Serfincor, S.A. de C.V. which was acquired in the first half of 2006."
Yes...follow the money and you will see lots and lots of Countries and different organisations working together a lot of times in this laundering process. it gets very complicated and sometimes hard to follow, but i guarantee you that if you follow the hamster wheel you were on, it does not just circle around fantasy land USA and end right back at the same with the USA to blame...Some take the hit more than others in various cases, but many Countries, banks, executives, etc get nailed all the time and they come from all over the World!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSBC

+++++ps...get up to speed with it all...Didn't you hear, Panama is kind of a bad name as of 2016.... Things are hidden all over the Globe in places you will never know...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers

Check out the movie, really very insightful documentary:
The Panama Papers is now streaming in the US on Hulu, Amazon Prime and EPIX. Worldwide coming soon.
Hulu: https://www.hulu.com/…/the-panama-papers-f0cf44b0-0892-4664…
Prime: https://www.amazon.com/Panama-Papers-N/dp/B07NY3N3KT/
EPIX: https://www.epix.com/movie/the-panama-papers

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