Mexico's congress votes to remove politicians' legal immunity

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Mexico's congress votes to remove politicians' legal immunity

leChef
[This is a post Chava found and I think it needs more attention]

by David Agren

The vote to remove politicians’ immunity is meant to curb corruption and lessen perceptions Mexico’s political class can act above the law

Mexico’s lower house of Congress has voted to remove politicians’ immunity from prosecution, a move meant to curb corruption and impunity and lessen perceptions the country’s political class can act above the law.

Under the constitutional changes approved late on Thursday, the country’s president – who can currently only be impeached for treason and “serious crimes of the common order” – could be put on criminal trial while in office, but only after a vote in congress.

“This bill will put an end to the impunity that prevails in Mexico’s political circles,” congressman Jesús Álvarez López of the leftist Morena party told AP.

Politicians from all sides were quick to claim credit for the changes – which have long been pushed by parties while in opposition but blocked by the party in power.

Politicians’ immunity from prosecution helped fuel perceptions that some sought election as a way of staying one step ahead of the law. Over the past decade, several politicians with accusations of corruption against them or supposed ties to drug cartels have hid out in congress, hoping to swear their oath of office and emerge untouchable.

The bill was approved as Mexico readies for July presidential elections in which corruption has emerged as a central theme.

The ruling Institutional Revolutionary party (PRI) has been badly hit by corruption allegations, and even elected a non-member as its candidate –  – in an attempt to clean up its image.

But Meade has struggled to connect with voters, and one poll this week showed him trailing leftwing populist candidate Andrés Manuel López Obrador by 30 points.

A string of PRI state governors have been caught up in graft allegations and several are in prison awaiting trial. Tomás Yarrington, former governor of Tamaulipas state on the Texas border from 1999 to 2005, was extradited on Friday from Italy to the United States.

However, some observers remain skeptical that stripping politicians of their immunity will prompt any real change in the country’s political culture.

“If you look at the politicians imprisoned in Mexico, they’re the product of political vendettas or the settling of scores, rather than acts of the justice system,” said Aldo Muñoz Armenta, a political science professor at the Autonomous University of Mexico State.

“As long as the prosecutor or investigators obey the president or governors, they’re not going to open an investigation into them so long as it’s not politically convenient.”

Source:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/20/mexico-congress-politician-legal-immunity-vote
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Parro
This is heavy . . . if it truly is carried out.  Believe politicians are more exposed.  It's fairly easy to understand, since the cartels kills the people they don't want.  Look at the 50+ politicians executed this past election year in Mexico.  They were the ones trying to take care of their communities, couldn't be bought, or aligned with a different cartel.  

Those that cannot be bought or aligned with the local cartel are gone.  The people in their place are submissive to the ruling or ambitious cartels.  

Remove impunity, penalize those that have greasy palms and put the real protector of Mexico into place.  enough is enough.
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Parro
Today, we have the mansion guy in Acapulco, newly elected Jorge Zuriel de los Santo  Birrilo, as the attorney general for Guerrero, to appear 9/18/18 before the lawmakers of the state of Guerrero, who voted unanimously for the inquisition.   Expect a grilling and try putting his name on a check stub - :)

He makes $52,000 USD, and has bought this six bedroom wt/ pool mansion for $500,000, but the state says it's worth twice as much. He did admit to remodeling a residence behind for his 12 bodyguards.  

Jorge is the Governor's (Hector Astudillo's) best friend of his son, Ricardo.

Jorge is supposedly going to be questioned over connection Ricardo, and lack of experience for this role.  Even though our Mr. Jorge, states he'll create the best attorney's general office ever, will see what unfolds next week.  Hopefully we can post a good story here if this new law holds.

Mexico's congress votes to remove politicians legal immunity - please show courage Guerrero legislators - get it right!
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canadiana
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I think this also would attract more serious politicians that are not in it just for the money and the 'licence to steal' and might hang around politics to make a difference and not because they are afraid if the immunity (I mean impunity heehee)ending so it maybe attract more qualified people.
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Chivis
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it was to protect the innocent as well...and there was a fairly easy way to through the courts emove immunity.  like in the iguala case the mayor, his was removed within weeks.
 
The way I see it.... the more people that don't like me, the less people I have to please
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El_Bujo
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SMOKE & MIRRORS ...
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leChef
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@Chivis: In what way did it protect the innocent? I would say it is quite uncommon to give immunity to elected officials in upstanding democracies. It does not really inspire trust.
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Chava
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09/21/2018 23:41 By:
Agency
Mexico CDMX Notimex
They affirmed that the only thing that was done was to homologate the Organic Law.

The full Congress of Mexico City, approved to disappear the figure of the jurisdiction of its Organic Law to homologate it on that issue with the local Constitution, so that the 66 local legislators will no longer have such protection.

After six hours of recess, the opinion approved minutes earlier by the Legislative Regulations, Studies and Parliamentary Practices Committee, a special instance that was created on Thursday morning and disintegrated after the session, was included in the agenda. .

The deputy coordinator of Morena, Eduardo Santillán, in presenting the opinion explained that there was a contradiction, because on the one hand the Constitution of Mexico City, which entered into force on September 17, no longer contemplated that figure, but the Organic Law .

The deputy Ernestina Godoy explained, in an interview, that the elimination of the law does not mean that the 66 congressmen are left unprotected, because they can not be reprimanded for expressing any opinion.

He recalled that the elimination of the law was already contemplated by the Constitution of Mexico City and the only thing that was done was to approve the Organic Law of the local Congress.

Google translation, no clean up.

https://www.unotv.com/noticias/estados/distrito-federal/detalle/desaparece-fuero-diputados-cdmx-390690/