Mexican Drug War Movies- Recommendations

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Chivis
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from a colleague:



"I'm attempting to determine the best 8-10 films in both English and Spanish for  an essay that I'm co-writing on "Cinematic Representations of the Mexican Narco War."

Haven't determined yet if we will go thematic; revenge, loss, parody, documentary or how to determine a range of representations yet."


He has asked for a list of films so I thought I would call on you.  
 
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635787at
Traffic is a good movie bout the drug war , depicts how a cartel uses the army , it's based on AFO and Juarez I believe.
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JohnnyOzone
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El Sicario -  Room 164

Great movie
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The documentary "Narco Cultura" by director Brian Schwartz follows the narco culture through the music of "Narcocorridos." A genre of music widely popular in Mexico & the U.S. glamorizing the lifestyle, exploits of particular cartel members, the money, women, etc.  This documentary is mostly in Spanish with English subtitles.  The website www.fusion.net lists seven fairly recent documentary movies about the drug culture.  
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Chivis
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wow thanks everyone..I will see if others weigh in and then send the list

Pepe, I have not seen the movie!  For sure this weekend I will make time.

I was wondering about La ley de Herodes.   El Infierno was on my list.  El Sicario was a little boring for me.  I know that sounds bad.  But I actually found reading the transcript more exciting.  

 
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spike151
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Also "Savages" English language. "A man apart" English Language. " el gringo " English and Spanish mixed. " The counsellor " English language.
" El Cartel " English and Spanish mixed. Also " the Bridge " American mini series
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spike151
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Except AFO operate and own the Tiajuana plaza.
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One of my five fave Mexican movies
That is why I hesitated, and although it isn't about the drug war it does link, but the general, and uneducated (to Narco world) audience won't be mindful of how it relates.  But damn such a great movie.

 
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I heartily agree with all the movie suggestions by our BB posters above.  I was especially impressed by "Room 164" made in corroboration with Charles Bowden ... Was that man in the movie really in Room 164 and the authentic Sicario?  

As an overarching commentary, here is dos centavos worth of thinking:

Chivis, this might be off the mark from what you are looking for ..but for starters, I've seen some pretty good documentaries on National Geographic's "Border Wars" also an excellent one by Al Jeezera on the violence in Juarez.

I especially like "serious" documentaries because they have teaching value and because they chronicle things that should not be forgotten by later generations.  Also, when "serious" productions are made, they garner the respect that people, public, and governmental policy makers can use to change opinions and laws in "realistic" ways.  The recent movie, "Contagion" attempted this,  but failed at the box office.... maybe too disturbing for head-in-the-sand audiences.    

IMO, and for all the above reasons, I urge Chivis to get involved with efforts that are dead serious about  the grave situations in Mexico (and Latin America). Chivis has unique connections with many kinds of people who trust her; she has obvious expertise in many areas as we can all sense in Borderland Beat.  I have trouble visualizing her being involved with anything funny or trite.  Her time and talents are too unique and valuable for such things. I would love to see Chivis authoring books and movies based on "stuff" she knows that the public and policy makers could use in their thinking about Mexico and Central and South America.  

BTW, I don't mind fictionalized movies that have a heavy basis in facts (where you can recognize the actual characters).  But I prefer movies that explicitly "try" to depict truthful realities (names, places, events, appropriate artifacts, language, dress, manners, values, etc.) ... In this genre I would place movies like The God Father I, II, Saving Private Ryan, Shindler's List, Full Metal Jacket, and Casino.  I fully understand that budgetary, time, legal issues, and resources are important considerations in movies.

I hope I have not overstepped my bounds,

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1966tinman
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I have a friend from Jalisco who owns a restaurant here in Texas . He is constantly on the lookout for those very low budget Mexican DVD or even VHS tapes of  movies with such stars as Mario Almada , Jorge Luke , and Jorge Reynoso portraying cops , smugglers , narcos , ect . . He found some that are packed 10 movies on one DVD and he'll play them on his big screen TV to the delight of his mostly Anglo customers .        
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Tinman: If you are talking about narco-movies where sicarios and capos ... party, drink, do drugs, have sex, drive expensive wheels ... and, of course, deal with large amounts of drugs and money in the context of luxuries, power over others, sex, and with kidnapping, torture, killing in various heinous ways, then I agree these kinds of movies are popular.  

However, I have a big problem with the above kinds of movies.  Here is why:

I have a firm belief that such movies actually have a very dark side in glamorizing the narco-world to audiences that are susceptible to such things.  Such audiences often identify with the "bad" actors and see themselves as adventurers, living criminal and dangerous lives.   Some impressionable and rebelious youths (girls and boys) love narco-corridos and narco-cultura while well knowing the anti-social aspects. The narco-corrido musicians and the songs they sing are very popular ... even if the songs of violence, sex, and power often are foisted on audiences as warnings.  B.S.  The "shit" sells because it is inversely doing attraction rather than repulsion on young minds.

So, what are your thoughts about my thinking here?

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1966tinman
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I read somewhere that Edgar Valdez " La Barbie " had financed a movie about his life as a narco . It was filmed but never finished or distributed . Anyhow back to your thoughts on narco movies and music . I would agree that any movies that glamorizes outlaws and their exploits are more commercially successful  because they depict the kind of violence and fast paced story lines that grab a usually young captive audience .  I can't fault the narco-corrido singers who have found a niche and are making money by selling their records and promoting a lifestyle that is appealing to a lot of people  .  I even know some young Hispanics  who can actually sing the narco-corrido  lyrics but can not speak a word of Spanish . They sport the flamboyant narco look ala El Ondeado complete with designer jeans , flashy pointy boots , and Santa Muerte medallions . There is even a very successful store here in my city that sells clothing , boots , and music geared to the inner narco in all of us .  As soon as I sell my entire 1980s Miami Vice wardrobe I plan on making the trek to Narco Tienda ...where any naco can become a narco .  
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Pecados de mi padre, a documentary about pablo through the eyes of his son. By nicolas entel
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1966tinman wrote
I read somewhere that Edgar Valdez " La Barbie " had financed a movie about his life as a narco . It was filmed but never finished or distributed . Anyhow back to your thoughts on narco movies and music . I would agree that any movies that glamorizes outlaws and their exploits are more commercially successful  because they depict the kind of violence and fast paced story lines that grab a usually young captive audience .  I can't fault the narco-corrido singers who have found a niche and are making money by selling their records and promoting a lifestyle that is appealing to a lot of people  .  I even know some young Hispanics  who can actually sing the narco-corrido  lyrics but can not speak a word of Spanish . They sport the flamboyant narco look ala El Ondeado complete with designer jeans , flashy pointy boots , and Santa Muerte medallions . There is even a very successful store here in my city that sells clothing , boots , and music geared to the inner narco in all of us .  As soon as I sell my entire 1980s Miami Vice wardrobe I plan on making the trek to Narco Tienda ...where any naco can become a narco .
When I lived in Phoenix a few years back, there were bars and dance halls where there were many men sporting the "White hat" Sinaloa narco chingones look of dress and deportment.  Probably, some of these characters were wannabees, but I think some were the real deal.  It was obvious that some  Women considered these characters as dangerously sexy. Like I said before, macho danger is erotic stuff for some women.... It is why the Devil made "buchonas".

Mexico-Watcher

P.S. Please post up your Miami Vice pics, if you have them.  I bet you were muy sexy to las buchonas when you danced that Miami Vice stuff.  Hey, now that you are 20-30 years older, do you think you'd look sexy in estilo narco?  And what about the Rolex.... knox-off fakes don't cut it ese. LOL
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El Infierno

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