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Mencho Vs. Marro

Parro
[SEEMS MENCHO SENT HIS NEPHEW TO NEGOTIATE A TRADE DEAL WITH MARRO, BUT THEY KILLED HIM.  THAT PISSED MENCHO OFF, AND GUANAJUATO HAS NOT BEEN THE SAME SINCE]

PART 1 of 2;



t’s a 15-hour drive from the Pacific coast port city of Lázaro Cárdenas, Michoacán, to the northern border city of Reynosa, Tamaulipas.

The former city – along with other Pacific coast ports such as Manzanillo, Colima, and Acapulco, Guerrero – serves as a gateway for the importation of drugs such as methamphetamine and the synthetic opioid fentanyl from Asian countries, especially China.

Reynosa, like other northern border cities, lies on the brink of the world’s largest drug market, the United States.

 
That makes the route between the two of major importance to criminal organizations such as the Jalisco New Generation Cartel (CJNG), easily the most dominant such organization in the Pacific coast port cities of Lázaro Cárdenas, Manzanillo and Acapulco.

It operates in almost every state in Mexico, according to the United States Drug Enforcement Administration, but while it completely controls criminal activities in some states, it doesn’t have the same dominance in the north of the country.

The Sinaloa Cartel, once led by imprisoned notorious kingpin Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán, dominates in much of the border region between Tijuana, Baja California, and Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua, while the CJNG wields substantial, although not uncontested, influence in Tamaulipas, the border state where Reynosa is located.

Therefore, moving drugs from the Pacific coast to the United States via Reynosa has two advantages: it saves the CJNG time because it is the shortest route to the northern border, and smuggling efforts into the U.S. are more likely to succeed because of its established – and significant – presence in Tamaulipas.

But there’s a catch. Getting from Lázaro Cardenas, or Manzanillo, to Reynosa in 15 hours entails going through Guanajuato, a state that the CJNG would like to control, criminally speaking, but doesn’t – at least for now.


In addition to the possibility that cartel operatives could run afoul of government security forces, hindering a smooth run from the glistening waters of the Pacific to Texas’ doorstep is the Santa Rosa de Lima Cartel, a Guanajuato-based fuel theft, drug trafficking and extortion gang headed by one of Mexico’s most wanted men, José Antonio “El Marro” Yépez.

In that context, according to a report published by the newspaper Milenio, CJNG leader Nemesio “El Mencho” Oseguera Cervantes – a man with a US $10-million price on his head in the United States – sent one of his nephews to Guanajuato in January 2017 to negotiate with the Santa Rosa de Lima Cartel with the aim of securing a safe passage through the state.

Yépez and his cartel henchmen, Milenio reported, were offered the opportunity to form a loose alliance with the CJNG. In exchange for accepting the offer, El Mencho and his men would stay out of the Santa Rosa gang’s lucrative fuel theft activities in Guanajuato, home to one of Pemex’s six refineries and hence several petroleum pipelines ripe for illegal tapping.

CONTINUE TO PART 2;
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Parro
[PART 2]



However, the conversation with Oseguera’s nephew didn’t go well, Milenio said. El Marro wasn’t interested in striking a deal with – or serving – anyone and was apparently sufficiently offended to have his sicarios, or hitmen, murder the CJNG envoy at an Irapuato coffee shop where the meeting took place.

Rejecting Oseguera’s offer, and having his nephew killed, made El Marro enemy No. 1 of El Mencho, an animosity that endures to this day and which has made Guanajuato the most violent state in the country.

Instead of leaving the Bajío region state as the criminal domain of the Santa Rosa de Lima Cartel, and using it solely as a piece in the drug smuggling puzzle between the Pacific and the Mexico-United States border, the CJNG moved into Guanajuato and launched a full-blown turf war against El Marro and his co-conspirators.

And thus two underworld kings, El Mencho, rey de metanfetamina (meth king) and El Marro, rey de huachicol (fuel theft king), have turned once-peaceful Guanajuato into a blood-soaked battlefield in a near-incessant war that both men are loathe to lose.


There were more than 3,500 homicide victims in Guanajuato last year – with a significant proportion of the murders attributed to the turf war – and the state has hung on to the unwanted title of Mexico’s most violent in the first five months of 2020.

The third participant in the dispute is, of course, the Mexican state but neither federal security authorities, nor their state counterparts, have succeeded in quelling the violence in Guanajuato – the killing just goes on and on.

Authorities have thus far also failed in their attempts to apprehend El Mencho and El Marro, although members of both men’s families have been detained.

However, keeping the men’s family members in prison has proven to be a challenge: Oseguera’s wife, an alleged CJNG financial operator, was released on bail in September 2018, while Yépez’s wife, mother, father, sister, cousin and niece, among other relatives, have all been arrested only to be later set free.

While El Mencho and El Marro remain at large, the demand for drugs in the United States stays high and authorities’ apparent incapacity to combat the two cartels continues, the violence in Guanajuato appears set to persist.

A truce between the two criminal “kings” could perhaps put an end to the bloodshed but given their history, that scenario seems about as likely as President López Obrador’s non-confrontational “hugs, not bullets” security strategy ending all violence in the country tomorrow.

Source:  https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/the-fight-for-guanajuato-getting-drugs-to-market-at-the-heart-of-dispute/

[I GOT TO HAND IT TO MARRO.  THE GUY HAS SURVIVAL SKILLS ON THE FRONT LINE, THAT FEW HAVE HAD IF ANY.  MENCHO JUST HIDES IN THE MOUNTAINS AND IS NEVER CLOSE TO THE ACTION.  I KEEP WRITING MARRO, BUT HE JUST SURPRISES.  HE'S KIND'VE LIKE A TICK]
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Aervin78
Does marro have a indictment in US ?
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redlogarythm
Don´t think so. The US tends to indict people who commit crimes either on US soil or in other countries only if those crimes affect the States directly or indirectly. Marro´s businesses are extortion, oil theft and drug distribution at the local level. Until now he hasn´t been able to buy drugs locally and export them through the border. All his cappable of doing is buying little quantities of meth or cocaine and distribute them in his strongholds.
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Parro
[MARRO MURDERS 3 SILAO COPS.  HIS MOTHER GOT OUT OF THE CAR BEFORE THE ROADBLOCK AND ESCAPED. THE LAWYER DID NOT.  MARRO STATES THE SILAO COPS WORK FOR THE CJNG]



Three municipal police officers were shot and killed in Silao, Guanajuato, early Monday just hours after police allegedly attempted to detain the mother of Santa Rosa de Lima Cartel leader José Antonio “El Marro” Yépez following her release from prison.

The officers were gunned down in the La Joya neighborhood at about 1:20 a.m. while responding to a report of a shootout. A fourth officer survived the attack but was wounded and is in serious condition.

The attack occurred just two weeks after three other Silao police officers were murdered.

 
In a video posted to social media on Monday, Yépez claimed responsibility for the most recent police murders.

He accused the Silao municipal police of following orders from the Jalisco New Generation Cartel (CJNG) – the Santa Rosa gang’s arch-enemy – to stop the vehicle in which his mother was traveling with lawyers after a judge ordered her release from prison due to a lack of evidence on charges of involvement with her son’s criminal organization.

However, Yépez said that his mother had changed cars and managed to pass freely through a police checkpoint.

El Marro, a fuel theft “king” and one of Mexico’s most wanted men, accused the officers of being “assholes” for following the orders of the CJNG, which is engaged in a vicious turf war in Guanajuato with the Santa Rosa de Lima Cartel.

He said that other police who cooperate with the Jalisco-based cartel will meet the same fate as the officers slain Monday.


Yépez ordered police to be “neutral” in the dispute between his criminal organization and that led by Nemesio “El Mencho” Oseguera Cervantes and “not get in the way of” his cartel’s activities. He also accused the Silao police of killing one of his lawyers.

In the same expletive-laden video, Yépez denied he was responsible for a failed bomb attack on the Pemex refinery in Salamanca, Guanajuato, last week.

“If I had something to do with the [bomb] scare at the refinery, I’d let you know with my own voice; I don’t have to make calls or hang [narco] signs,” he said.

A federal and state police operation has been attempting to capture El Marro for more than a year but the criminal leader has remained elusive even as members of his cartel – and family – were taken in to custody.

His wife, mother, father, sister, cousin and niece, among other relatives, have all been arrested only to be later set free.

Source: Infobae (sp), El Universal (sp), La Silla Rota (sp)

Additional Source:  https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/3-cops-murdered-after-police-attempt-to-check-gangsters-moms-car/
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Parro
[SRLC AND CJNG ARE PISSED.  CELAYA, ONCE AGAIN AT THE CROSSFIRE OF THE BATTLE FOR GUANAJUATO.  ALOT OF GRUDGES BEING PLAYED OUT.  CELAYA IS MARRO'S TOWN, WHICH CJNG HAS TRIED FOR SOME TIME TO TAKE THE PLAZA.  REALLY DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING]

Violence returns to Celaya; command launches explosives at houses
In the events, which took place this Tuesday, a state police officer was also found, who was with his wife.



GUANAJUATO.

The violence returned to Celaya with several attacks on houses and executions on public roads.

In Villas del Carbón street, in the Villas del Romedal neighborhood, armed men dropped a Molotov bomb, shot at a house and fled.
In fact, a man between 30 and 35 years old, who was inside, died of poisoning.

Minutes later, on Ejido del Puesto Street, in the Ejidal neighborhood, they also threw a Molotov bomb, burned a car and shot. In fact, there was only material damage.

A few blocks from that home, a man who was traveling on a motorcycle on Calle Ejido de Galvanes was executed. In the same event, another person was injured.

Finally, in the municipality of Cortazar they executed an element of the State Public Security Forces, who was frank. The officer was accompanied by his wife who was injured. Everything happened between 13:00 and 14:00 on Tuesday.

Source:  https://www.excelsior.com.mx/nacional/vilencia-regresa-a-celaya-comando--lanza-explosivos-contra-casas/1391299

[GO TO THE LINK TO SEE THE TWITTER RECORDING OF A FIRE, ASSUMED TO BE BY A MOLOTOV, AND THE VICTIM, WHO IS HYSTERIC, MAYBE A NEIGHBOR OF A PLAYER, OR FAMILY MEMBER]


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Bailador
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Established and significant presence??!!!!...In Tamaulipas??!!!!....Pwople are still trying to figure out if cjng really is in Reynosa and they say significant and established presence? Who are these guys, comidians? If they had a significant and established presence, people wouldn't be trying to figure out if they're actually there don't you think.
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Parro
Feds investigate Guanajuato AG, claim operation against gang was ‘a setup’

The anomalies in the operation made it 'ridiculous to say the least:' federal attorney general

Published on Wednesday, July 1, 2020

A security operation in Celaya, Guanajuato, that led to the arrest of the mother, sister and cousin of Santa Rosa de Lima Cartel leader José Antonio “El Marro” Yépez was a farce, says federal Attorney General Alejandro Gertz Manero.

During a radio interview on Tuesday, Gertz also said that Guanajuato Attorney General Carlos Zamarripa will be investigated for his role in the June 20 operation during which 26 people with alleged links to the Santa Rosa fuel theft, extortion and drug trafficking gang were taken into custody.



Gertz told journalist Joaquín López-Dóriga that Guanajuato police did not have a warrant to search the address where the suspects – all of whom have since been released – were supposedly arrested. Judges had only issued a warrant to conduct a search of a stolen vehicle, he said.

He also said that one of those arrested was detained on weapons charges but the person only had a gas gun, “not a firearm.”

He added that police had only found a small quantity of drugs in the possession of those detained.

The attorney general said that once Guanajuato authorities realized that they had carried out an operation that “had nothing to do with what their own judges had authorized,” they tried to have federal authorities take charge of the case.

“The day after they’d done all this, … they go to the federal Attorney General’s Office [FGR] … and say ‘you take over,’” Gertz said.

However, the FGR cannot assume responsibility for an operation which it didn’t carry out and with which “it doesn’t agree,” he said.

Gertz also said that the FGR couldn’t take charge of the case because the crimes of which those detained were accused – small scale drug dealing and possession of “a gun that isn’t a gun” – are not federal offenses.

He said that Guanajuato authorities made an application for a court ruling for federal authorities to take over the case but a judge rejected their request.

“The local judge told them exactly the same thing as our [Guanajuato] delegate told them. ‘No – you were given authorization to carry out a certain [operation] and you went and carried out a different one,’” Gertz said.

The attorney general also said that Guanajuato authorities provided incorrect details about how the arrests occurred, a point a judge accepted when ordering the release of Yépez’s mother, sister and cousin.

The anomalies in the operation made it “ridiculous to say the least,” Gertz said, describing it as a montaje –  a stunt, setup or farce.

He also said that Guanajuato authorities’ claim that the FGR was responsible for the release of El Marro’s family members – the criminal leader’s father and wife, among other relatives have also been set free – was indicative of a “lack of respect” for federal officials.

Gertz said that Zamarripa, the Guanajuato attorney general, will be investigated in connection with the anomalies in the operation and the accusations leveled at federal authorities.

“Guanajuato has been a veritable hellhole of violence for five years and this attorney general has been there for 11 years. We’re going to initiate proceedings … to shed light on all his actions to see if there are any [grounds for] legal complaint,” he said.

Meanwhile, the newspaper Milenio reported that three police officers in Silao, Guanajuato, followed orders from the Jalisco New Generation Cartel (CJNG) – the Santa Rosa de Lima Cartel’s arch-enemy – to set up a roadblock to stop a convoy of vehicles in which Yépez’s mother was believed to be traveling after her release from prison on Sunday.

However, El Marro said in a video posted to social media that his mother had changed cars and managed to pass freely through the police checkpoint.

Angry at their failure to locate Yépez’s mother, CJNG operatives pursued a vehicle in which the woman’s lawyers were traveling and shot and killed one of them.

Three police officers were subsequently murdered in Silao in the early hours of Monday morning. State authorities confirmed that the officers slain were those that set up the roadblock on the orders of the CJNG.

In light of the events, Silao Mayor Antonio Trejo dismissed the local police chief while the municipal force is investigated for alleged links to the CJNG, one of Mexico’s most powerful and violent criminal organizations.

Source: Milenio (sp)

Additional Source:  https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/feds-investigate-guanajuato-ag/
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El Guero
Hope those cops are burning in hell. Call me a Marro fanboy and I'll admit it.   I'm rooting for him 100%.  That's why he was crying in the video....His whole family was in jail and he knew the police were going to help CJNG kill them upon their release.  

Mothers should be off limits even in the cartel world.  
CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES!  GRIND THEIR BONES INTO DIRT!  MAKE THEM REGRET THEY WERE EVER BORN!
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Aervin78
You might as well go there and fight on his side 🤡 you should and has to root for the innocent civilians that Got their car burned almost every day,get extort by both cartel , lost their lives and their loved ones life , my question is would you still stand for what you said if you were one of those victims ?  Guanajuato was calm before Jalisco came there but nobody said marro wasn’t giving them hell
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Parro
[AERVIN 78 - TOTALLY AGREE.  BOTH THESE GUYS ARE LOSERS.  AS THE WAR PLAYS OUT BETWEEN CJNG AND SRLC, IT IS INDEED INTERESTING TO SEE MARRO STRIKE BACK AT CJNG.  WHILE CJNG PLAYS PROPAGANDA TACTICS, MARRO IS MUCH MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD IN HIS MESSAGE, WHILE MENCHO IS NOT PRESENT. TODAY WE HEAR OF THE MASSACRE OF THE REHAB FOLKS IN IRAPUATO.  WE KNOW THAT REHAB ROOMS, HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TARGETS, FOR HOUSING CARTEL ASSOCIATES. TO CLAIM IT'S MARRO, IS TO CLAIM IT'S CJNG.  PROBABLY CJNG, SINCE THEY ARE TRYING TO PUT ALL THE HEAT ON MARRO, FOR THE GUANAJUATO PLAZA.  MARRO ISN'T GOING TO ANTAGONIZE ANYMORE THAN THE SILAO POLICE COLLABORATIVE IN MY MIND .  CJNG IS MY CALL ON THE MASSACRE, BUT COULD BE COMPLETELY WRONG.  WHY ELSE IS CJNG IN GUANAJUATO?]

Souce: https://www.milenio.com/policia/marro-autor-ataque-irapuato-buscaban-internos-cjng

El Marro', author of the attack in the annex of Irapuato; they were looking for inmates of the CJNG

The survivors of the attack declared that the moment the hired killers entered the scene they shouted that they were "on behalf of El Marro".



The attack on an Irapuato annex that left 26 dead was carried out by hitmen from the Santa Rosa de Lima Cartel with the aim of assassinating a group of inmates belonging to the Jalisco Nueva Generación Cartel. Authorities conducting the investigation confirmed to MILENIO that the survivors of the attack declared that the moment the hired killers entered the scene they shouted that they were "on behalf of El Marro."

Operation against "El Marro" was a montage; The prosecutor of Guanajuato will be investigated: FGR The first investigations confirm that in the annex there was a group of young people belonging to the Jalisco Nueva Generación Cartel, although it has not been verified if they managed the place or were only inmates, or how many of the deceased were or were currently in the ranks of this criminal group. The authorities indicated to MILENIO that according to the versions of the witnesses, there were at least four men who shot with high-caliber weapons and who, by not directly identifying their targets, attacked all those present. This attack comes after the Jalisco Nueva Generación Cartel assassinated one of the lawyers of José Antonio Yépez Ortiz's mother, leader of the Santa Rosa de Lima Cartel, last weekend, with the help of three policemen from Silao will improvise a checkpoint with the aim of identifying El Marro's mother. But as MILENIO announced, the Huachicolero leader changed his mother, sister and cousin of units halfway to prevent them from being attacked. Hours later, the three police officers appeared dead and through a video, El Marro acknowledged having given the order to assassinate them.

[REGARDING THE REHAB DEATHS, WHY WOULD EL MARRO BROADCAST WHO HE WAS BEFORE THIS MASSACRE.  MARRO FORTHCOMING ON SILAO POLICE ASSASINATIONS.  MARRO WAS PROBABLY RIGHT, HIS FAMILY ACCUSED WRONGLY, BUT PROBABLY NOT ANYWAY.  CJNG OWNS THE AIRWAVES, MARRO COMES ACROSS HONESTLY, STRANGELY ENOUGH FOR A CRIMINAL]



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Aervin78
Media said marro but I’m reading everywhere else people from irupuato saying it’s CJNG . They obviously choose a different tactics heating up the plaza even more to put pressure on the gouv  to take down marro , smart move .