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Soliado
As a result of Donald Trump's speech announcing his candidacy for president of the United States of America and in which he made comments, that some considered derogatory towards Mexican immigrants, there has been some fallout affecting business relationships. The following story was published on CNNMoney on June 27, 2015. The story also includes a video of an interview with Mr. Trump but my system would not allow me to paste it directly onto my posting, my apologies. The link below will take you that interview and an associated story.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/27/media/donald-trump-nbc-univision/index.html

A coalition of Latino organizations is stepping up the pressure on NBCUniversal to reconsider its business relationship with Donald Trump.

In a statement on Saturday, the National Hispanic Leadership Agenda simultaneously applauded Univision's decision to sever ties with Trump and urged NBC to "follow Univision's lead."

Members of the coalition, NHLA for short, include business, media, and cultural advocacy groups like the National Council of La Raza, the United States Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, Presente.org and the National Hispanic Media Coalition.

It called on NBCUniversal to "withdraw from airing the Miss USA pageant and terminate its financial ties to Donald Trump."

Univision similarly canceled its airing of Miss USA, slated for July 12, in the wake of Trump's offensive remarks about Mexican immigrants. Trump, now a presidential candidate, has called Mexicans "rapists" and "killers," among other things.

Univision's decision was announced on Thursday. The network had a long-term contract with Trump to televise Miss USA and Miss Universe, and Trump has threatened to sue over the breach of contract.

NBC's ties with Trump have since come under scrutiny. NBCUniversal owns half of the pageant business while Trump owns the rest. So NBC is not just a broadcaster of Miss USA, it's a business partner of The Trump Organization.

CNNMoney reported on Friday that NBC is reviewing its contracts with Trump. For now the network has distanced itself from the candidate's offensive comments but said nothing about the business venture or the upcoming broadcast.

One of the coalition members, Felix Sanchez, chairman of the National Hispanic Foundation for the Arts, said Univision's decision "is civil rights leadership in the digital age."

He said, "We implore NBCU to follow Univision's lead and take a similar stance and sever their financial relationship with Mr. Trump, in light of the bigoted way he has denigrated Mexicans and Mexican-Americans."

An representative of NBC, which is owned by Comcast (CCV), declined to comment on Saturday.

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jlopez
NBC to the Donald: "You are fired!!"
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Carlos Slim doesn't like him either.

MEXICO CITY — One of the risks of having a business empire with tentacles encircling the globe is that if you refer to your business partners as drug-runners and rapists, there are plenty of people to get upset.

In a fiesta of indignation, Mexicans have been lopping off presidential candidate Donald J. Trump's tentacles after his comments about the types of people who were crossing America's southern border. One by one, Mexican companies with business relationships with Trump have announced they are washing their hands of him.

Carlos Slim, the world's second-richest man (Trump shuffles in at 405th, according to Forbes), this week canceled a project that one of his companies, Ora TV, was working on with one of Trump's. Slim's son-in-law and spokesman, Arturo Elias, described Trump's comments as "totally out of line" and said that partnering with someone "so closed-minded was not going to work."

Televisa, the world's largest Spanish-language media company, came to the same conclusion this week, announcing that they were done with Trump. Following similar moves by NBC and Univision, Televisa said it would not be broadcasting Trump's Miss Universe pageant, nor would Mexico send a contestant to the beauty contest. Any "commercial relationship with the Miss Universe pageant and with the companies of the Trump organization is unacceptable," the company said in a statement

“Mr. Trump hasn’t demonstrated understanding or respect towards Mexican migrants and has offended the entire Mexican population,” Televisa said in an e-mailed statement on Monday. “Televisa isn’t indifferent to these declarations and energetically condemns all forms of discrimination, racism and xenophobia.”

This morning, Trump tried, slightly, to smooth over feelings, announcing on Twitter that he "loves the Mexican people."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2015/06/30/how-mexico-is-going-to-make-donald-trump-pay/
Words are powerful weapons, be careful how you use them.
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Macy's Fires Trump

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/01/politics/donald-trump-macys/

 (CNN)Macy's is pulling Donald Trump brand merchandise from its stores after the Republican presidential candidate's recent controversial remarks created a public uproar.

The department store has come under intense pressure to cut ties with the real estate magnate and businessman after he referred to immigrants from Mexico and other countries "killers and rapists."

In a statement Wednesday morning, Macy's said the company "stands for diversity" and that it had no tolerance for discrimination.

"We are disappointed and distressed by recent remarks about immigrants from Mexico. We do not believe the disparaging characterizations portray an accurate picture of the many Mexicans, Mexican Americans and Latinos who have made so many valuable contributions to the success of our nation," Macy's said. "In light of statements made by Donald Trump, which are inconsistent with Macy's values, we have decided to discontinue our business relationship with Mr. Trump and will phase-out the Trump menswear collection, which has been sold at Macy's since 2004."

Poll: Bush, Trump rise nationally

Macy's carries a variety of Donald Trump brand attire, including dress shirts, neckties and cuff links. Trump has also appeared in Macy's commercials.

A MoveOn.org petition calling on Macy's to sever its relationship with Trump had collected well over 700,000 signatures as of Wednesday morning.

"Donald Trump does not reflect 'the magic of Macy's,'" the petition reads. "Macy's says it has a strong obligation to be 'socially responsible' and that 'actions speak louder than words.' Indeed. It's time to act."

Angelo Carusone, who started the "Dump Trump" movement in 2012 to protest Trump's "birther" theories about President Barack Obama and launched the Macy's petition, lauded the department store for making the "right decision."

"The statement itself (from Macy's) basically confirms what we've been saying since day one: His brand, which is bigoted bullying, is inconsistent with Macy's brand," Carusone, the executive vice president of Media Matters, told CNN. "There's a line between being very opinionated and expressing yourself and communicating that and being reckless and destructive."

This is not the first fallout for Trump, who launched his White House bid in mid-June.

Last week, Univision announced that it would cancel its telecast of the Miss USA pageant, which is partially owned by Trump, and that it would cut all business ties with him.

5 questions about NBC's breakup with Trump

NBCUniversal, which had jointly owned the Miss USA pageant and Miss Universe pageant with Trump, has also severed its relationship with the brash White House candidate. Trump was also the host of "Celebrity Apprentice," which airs on NBC, and will no longer be a part of the reality TV show.

Trump said in a statement that it was his decision to terminate his relationship with Macy's, and accused both the department store and NBC for supporting illegal immigration.

"Both Macy's and NBC totally caved at the first sight of potential difficulty with special interest groups who are nothing more than professional agitators, who are not looking out for the people they purport to represent, but only for themselves. It is people like this that are actually running our country because our leaders are weak and ineffective," Trump said.

He also said that if he were to start a new product line in the future, he would make sure that his ties and shirts are made in America.

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777
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Nascar Fires Trump

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2015/07/03/donald-trump-nascar-marcus-lemonis-camping-world-ceo-doral-profit/29674827/



I wonder what percentage of the resort/casino employees are hispanic? Someone has to cook, make the beds, and pick up after the guests, right? Don't mean to stereotype here! IDK, maybe I'm over thinking this one..



Not the best source for narco news/info but... LOL..

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katattx
Awesome video! Those are the kind of immigrants I've had the pleasure of knowing. Hard workers willing to do the most demanding physical labor, who risked their lives just to get here. Ty for posting
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Mexico-Watcher
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777:  Hijole!  (SP=Wow!) Great post...

 I viewed the video numerous times from a number of perspectives; which I  routinely do with videos of special interest.

Thusly, I have a number of questions based on my suspicions that the video is too polished to be a spontaeous  "on the job site"  interview.  The protagonist does seem to be very practiced at handling hammar and marro.  Huumm?      

The whole thing gave me  the impression that it was a funded, professionally scripted, videographed, and acutely focused on conveying its intended messages.   The  "hard working paisa" protagonist seemed  spontaneous and rigtheously offended.  Hower,  to me who has a little experiences among actors and media people, he seemed to be an "actor" working in a staged setting at some legitimate construction site.

Given my suspions, could you provide us with information on:
1a.. Who commisioned the video... What/who is OccupyDemocrats?
1b.  What is the whole story of how the video came to be?
1c.  What are the goals in the video ... target audience, purposes, etc.?
2. Who is the interviewer (name, affiliations, agenda, etc)?
3. Where and when was the video produced?
4. Who is the person (or actor) pounding stakes at $1000 per week, and editorializing eloquently about taxes and drug addict?

Biases:   I confess my biases to being a Trump supporter and this could certainly color my skepticism of the video.  Also, I am a Southwest Mexican-American with extensive life experiences in  barrio life and its issues.  I lean conservative on most things political and in life and moral values.   I do NOT purport to represent Latinos one bit.   So be it.

Mexico-Watcher

PS- I am natural cynic about lots of things because of  the hundreds of times I've been duped into thinking black is white, and shit is Tootsie Rolls. .
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@Mexico-Watcher

I don't know who recorded/produced the video. I stumbled upon this video and thought it was rather funny. Not that the immigration issue is something to laugh about. Maybe because I know people that are just like the construction worker.

As far as agendas... My guess would be this is yet another person giving Trump the finger for his comments. Youtube has plenty. Some chose to cuss him out. Others wrote songs about being proud Mexican-Americans. You don't really hear about what average Jose thinks. The celebrities' reactions to Trump's comments has gotten most of the attention.




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777 wrote
@Mexico-Watcher

I don't know who recorded/produced the video. I stumbled upon this video and thought it was rather funny. Not that the immigration issue is something to laugh about. Maybe because I know people that are just like the construction worker.

As far as agendas... My guess would be this is yet another person giving Trump the finger for his comments. Youtube has plenty. Some chose to cuss him out. Others wrote songs about being proud Mexican-Americans. You don't really hear about what average Jose thinks. The celebrities' reactions to Trump's comments has gotten most of the attention.
777: Thanks for your response.

I too have known many Mejicanos and Central Americans legal and "illegal" immigrant workers in construction, landscaping, hospitality industry, manufacturing, ranching, house keeping, etc, etc.   I have had them as great neighbors and even as occasional good friends who I have helped with various issues.  And, I have worked among and with them as coworkers.  I have been in houses where there were 20 or more living in a one bedroom house and paying $10 a day each  to do so... (over $200/day or $6,000/mont).  Do you think this was being reported to authorities?  Money laundering and transporting?  You bet, you count the ways.  

I have also known many in the above groups who were outright crooks or doing illegal things "for crooks".  And, yes, there certainly is ample evidence that "some" illegals are benign looking  thieves, smugglers, scammers, rapists, and murderers.   I have been at parties and in bars where I learned disturbing things as participant observer.  I have also known my share of insurance and welfare fraud crooks, and tax cheats.  I have also known employers of illegal immigrants  who use a number of ploys to hire, pay, and keep "funny books".  Some of these same dirty employers have their workers do unethical or dangerous things that citizens would not tolerate.  This whole "sick" area of employer/worker safety and relationships needs to be revealed to the American electorate.  I suspect Donald Trump understands that these issues exist and need to be addressed.

My friend, illegal immigration  is a very complex problem with many facets and interrelationships that sorely needs attention.   I hope that Trump's non-PC remarks trigger honest discussions and debate on illegal immigration... and that this all leads to realistic solutions for the USA  and people exporting nations as well.  

My big fear is that politicians will polarize themselves and the nation around emotionally charged issues  that will then lead to violence and civil unrest accross America.  What I fear has happened before in other places and times ... few saw the gathering storm.  There always seems to be a tipping point in which people become irrational and panic driven to do unthinkable things.  I fear we may be approaching said tipping point beyond which lies massive civil unrest and chaos.  Maybe, that is what some people that have larger future agendas want?  Oh, let's not get conspiracy theories here (puts on tin hat).

History shows that once the sociological shit hits the fan, there will be no peace until the "bloody" shit is spent and we litterally have a new world to deal with.  If I were young today, I'd be very, very concerned about the future.  Ah, but what do we old farts know?

Mexico-Watcher
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After listening to and reading Trump's remarks and observing the reactions to his  bizarre comments, I have concluded that Donald Trump is working for the Democratic party. My conclusion is based entirely on logic, after considering all the evidence that has been reported in the media, and considering the statements that Trump himself has made. There was once upon a time a remote possibility that the Republican party would actually attempt to garner some of the Latino vote in 2016, so it is clear that Trump was charged with making sure that did not happen. He has been very successful so far. One can only wish him all the luck. But he would be the first to tell you that he has never failed at anything he has tried, so I'm quite sure his success will continue.

I know that Trump's supporters, the Trumpets and Trumpettes of the world, will probably disagree with me, but I am simply relying on available evidence. Nothing else explains it.
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JL my friend, as you were posting this I was having a discussion of same with friends.  50-50 dem/rep

When Trump opened his mouth I immediately said, "RNC better distant themselves and quickly or they will be digging themselves out of a hole perhaps for the remainder of the election campaign"

and they did not, and when they did it was weak and ineffective.

Actually, Trump had some good points on business and IF he had expressed a concern about the border I would not have raised an eyebrow, but what he said was racist and then I heard him on CNN saying he said all "illegals"  not just Mexicans.

Liar liar hair on fire.

I told my friends, RNC have no skills in presidential campaigns, Obama had us for lunch with his gasp of social media, the dems play chess, and RNC are stuck on old maid.

all that said......

what no one is talking about...and it should be placed in perspective.  Trump is in "Second place"  which means nothing.  what is telling is out of all the republican voters polled only 9-10% support Trump.

That means 90% do want his ass.

and that is overlooked.  
 
The way I see it.... the more people that don't like me, the less people I have to please
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Donald Trump Deletes Tweet About Jeb Bush’s Wife: You Like ‘Mexican Illegals’ Because of Your Wife
 
The way I see it.... the more people that don't like me, the less people I have to please
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That's a somewhat misleading statement. Trump leads in Republican polls, which is what the Democrat politicians want him to do and what Republican politicians are worried about. Great entertainment value in all of this.
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 He's the top, #1 man on the poll, when it comes to rich racist white guys running for president of the USA! That's the poll, that counts...the public opinion poll!
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sure JL

 
The way I see it.... the more people that don't like me, the less people I have to please
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Manuel.  Good comment!  It is hard to understand those here on Forum that argue everything he said is true.  

His very first words are a lie.  "Mexico sends" ..blah blah.  Mexico doesn't send anyone here.  Some immigrants may escape to the US to avoid being killed by the military or federal police (who are in cahoots with cartels or other criminal groups).  But that is not exactly the same as Mexico "sending" them to the US.

I agree with jlopez that the Trump saga is good entertainment.  But I don't agree that Trump is the clown in the circus, I think he is more like a carnival barker.    
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great comment SB
 
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