El Kelin or Z2 Possible new Boss of Los Zetas

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El Kelin or Z2 Possible new Boss of Los Zetas

spike151
Valor por Tamaulipas.



Rogelio Gonzalez Pizana, "El Kelin" or "Z2", who was a member of CDG and a founder member of Los Zetas, left the Altiplano No 1 prison on the 30th of August 2014, acquitted of the crime attempted homicide in the criminal case 56/2004 revealed a source at SEGOB.

The seventh circuit of the centre auxillary of the third region based in Guadalajara, Jalisco changed the 16 year sentence in January of 2014 by the fourth district Federal criminal court based in Toluca, state of Mexico. The new sentence was 6 years and 3 days of prison and a fine. The new sentence has already been served by "El Kelin" as he has been in prison since 2004.

The court only found evidence for, and reduced the charges to possession of firearms and ammunition for exclusive use by the armed forces.

The court issued an order for his liberation to the Director of Altiplano no 1 where he was held.

Until this point SEGOB has not issued any official communication about the new sentence.

The "Stealthy" release of Rogelio Gonzalez Pizana, alias Rogelio Pizana Gonzalez or Rogelio Gonzalez Garza, is similar to that of Rafael Caro Quintero who was released on August 9th 2013 after spending more than 28 years in Puente Grande prison.

"El Kelin" always held a rank above that of Heriberto Lazcano Lazcano "El Lazca" or "Z3" in the Zetas for the CDG before his arrest in 2004.

Who is he?

El Kelin unlike the other founders of Los Zetas was not previously a member of a special group of the Mexican armed forces.

He had been in the premier circle of Osiel Cardenas Guillen, "the friend killer".

His first nickname he had was "El Senor de la Playa", " the Lord of the beach". He had control of a runway called Los Cuervos , the crows, located near Playa Bagdad, where he loaded drug shipments and moved them in boats to the United States.

He created a network of protection in Matamoros and Reynosa, which allowed him to operate with impunity, and avoid police operations against him. He also showed great ability to corrupt authorities.

He was captured on 12th of September 2001, by elements of the Marina, when he was aboard a Ram Durango Jeep with Texas plates.

He was found with drugs and money and false credentials for the Federal Police.

He was taken by the Municipal Police and the PGR in Matamoros to Mexico City but never arrived.

Five months after his arrest in February of 2002, UEDO realized that Gonzalez Pizana had been replaced by Jose Luis Lara Delgado alias "El Quillin". "El Quillin" had been complicit with a member of the Municipal Police called Juan Uriza Lara. Both were sentenced to 7 and 9 years in prison respectively.

On the 29th of October 2004 elements of the AFI located "El Kelin" in a bar called La Covacha in Matamoros, when he saw them he opened fire.

In the fierce gun battle that followed, he killed an agent of the AFI."El Kelin" was wounded and captured and immediately transferred to Federal District of Mexico.

In the same operation Seido and the PGR, found 58 people in the bar, including 22 women and 20 men and a minor who worked there. They were arrested for working for the business owned by "Z2".

One month after the capture of Gonzalez Pizana, and 19 months after the arrest of his boss Cardenas Guillen, the split between Los Zetas and CDG came about.

Original article at Valor por Tamaulipas







 
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Maddy
He killed an AFI and got only 6yrs?..wow. I wonder what was that cause for his case to be reviewed and given a reduced sentenced, oh maybe a bribe. Maybe. But oh well. These kinds of cases give them narcos influence to work with impunity.
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spike151
I think he originally got sentenced to 16 years, but recently and very suspiciously according to me, his original charge of attempted homicide, was reduced to possession of firearms, and for that charge his sentence was reduced to 6 years.
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Siskiyou_Kid
Good article. Thanks for sharing.

I never believed that Omar could really be in charge, considering the rumors.

It's interesting that Francisco hasn't been in the public eye. You would think somebody would be talking about him, but I would imagine the feds don't want him to know what they have.
Those that say, don't know. Those that know, don't say.
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Itzli
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There is also an assortment of second generation Treviño family members said to be active in Los Zetas.

In my opinion, Z-2 is not a viable candidate to lead Los Zetas at all.  I believe we should keep an eye on Gustavo “El Erótico/Z-15” González Castro, Eduardo "Z-33" Mendoza Robles, José María "El Charly/Z-43/El Amo/El Chema" Guizar Valencia, Maxiley “El Max/Z-19/El Contador” Barahona Nadales, Ramiro "El Rama" Rojas, and to a lessor extent Regino Gutierrez Moreno, Román Ricardo "El Coyote" Palomo Rincones, and Sergio Ricardo “El Grande” Basurto Peña.
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spike151
Time will tell, but its interesting to speculate
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ArmChairIntellect
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Like I've been saying Kid, returning to the shadows, every flashy narco is getting swatted, a new era is almost complete, Mayos still gotta go as well as those who can't keep things quiet which as we have all seen is becoming more and more problematic for the PRI.  This is their strategy of distraction but all theses flashy busts of the infamous is still isn't enough, it's not working.
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slayer421
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Itzli, isn't El Erotico dead? At least that is the strong rumor going around, but I think I am with you on this one and he maybe alive. Supposedly killed in Jalisco if I am not confused. Great stuff as always from you, thanks
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gotcha, thanks DCM
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Itzli
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Yes he was allegedly killed in the Guadalajara area in January 2009.  However, other rumors indicate he was alive after this.  Following the August 25, 2011 attack at the Casino Royale, it was reported that "El Erótico" was head of the Monterrey plaza and, therefore, possibly the one that ordered the attack.  More recent rumors indicated that "Z-42" was the visible face of Los Zetas but the true leadership was held by "El Erótico".  Unfortunately, that is the extent of the information I am aware of.
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canadiana
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Boy does he look rough compared to the ID photo
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Best
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Hello everyone,

Surely "El Kelin" went back to work for the Matamoros faction of CDG once he left prison rather than their bitter enemies the Zetas.
He was after all in the inner circle of the Cardenas family so wouldnt it make sense he returns to them rather than the Zetas who split away from CDG after his own arrest.

Just my two cents.

Regards
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spike151
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Well I dont have sources inside the zetas or CDG, so unless anyone does its pure speculation. But he was arrested as a zeta, and was probably imprisoned with other zetas, as the prisons in mexico segregate prisoners cartel, or gang, by cartel or gang. Otherwise it would be a blood bath. If he has spent his time in prison with zetas, I not sure I would subscribe to the idea that he will go back to being a CDG operative, since the leadership of CDG has completely changed since he was incarcerated in 2004.

Given that he did join the zetas as a founder, and given the bad blood between the two organisations, I think CDG would kill him at the earliest opportunity if they had access to him.

The thing that perks my interest in El Kelin as a candidate, is that a deal was struck to reduce his sentence to arms possession, so he could be let out for time already served. Is it just a coincidence that this happened? maybe the court received a bribe to reduce the charge and let him out. What would be the motive for that? In prison he is just another bare ass in the showers, but if the Valor por T article is accurate in its facts, he held a position above Z3 before he was arrested. Is it so fanciful to think that a deal was struck to get him out of prison, because 40 had been arrested and 42 was sick?

The article states that he was particularly good at fostering political connections, as we know from Tuta and Chapo, this is a highly prized skill set for any Capo. I dont have the knowlege that Itzli or Lucio have regarding the Zetas current Leutenants, so I couldnt comment on whether those candidates have the required skill set to be a capo. But I can use my 20 years experience as manager and hirer of people, to assess what is required of a future capo.

The zetas are like any other multi national corporation, they want to earn money. Like any other corporation the short list for CEO, which is what a capo is, will be small because very few people possess the skill set required for the post. But any potential capo has to have the following skills.

1, the ability to think strategically
2, be able to deal with logistics
3, be able to foster political connections and maintain them for the protection that they bring.
4, be able to deal with financies
5, be able to see the big picture
6, be able to remain calm and think clearly in a crisis.
7, in the case of a cartel, be able to remain in the background and fly under the radar and not attract attention, or do things that would make his or her political connections run for cover.

I have read recently that a propensity for Violence would be a great asset for a potential candidate . I think that is counter intuitive for a capo. The zetas are run on the same lines as the armed services. Who takes care of discipline of soldiers in the army? certainly not Generals. That is done by Lt's and seargants. El Maxiley with his propensity for violence, would probably not be best suited for capo given the above skill set required. He would be better off and better utilised as an LT, where the fear he inspires can be used to best effect. The trevinos, are well known to everyone, and so cannot fly under the radar by dint of their family ties. With EPN needing to crack down on the openly violent cartels, due to his need for foregin investment in Pemex, would the trevinos make good candidates for capo/ceo? im not sure they would.

Over time all the cartels have to evolve to survive in whatever the political climate is. I think the days of the in your face cartel violence will soon be a thing of the past.


 But thats just my humble opinion.
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Bjeff
@Spike: El Kelin did not join Los Zetas as a founder, he was with CDG way before Los Zetas came about in 1999. He was also working as a drug trafficker before Osiel Cardenas took charge of CDG and from my understanding had his own operation with a man called Abelardo Conde Covarrubias AKA El Calabazo, probably with an understanding of Juan García Ábrego, and later El Chava.

He was never even Z-2, as the Mexican media have branded him as. He was appointed to the position by Osiel Cardenas when Arturo Guzmán Decena (Z-1) got killed in 2002. By then the original Z-2 (Alejandro Lucio Morales Betancourt) had already been arrested and had become a protected witness.
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spike151
Cool, so who do you think will get the head position? Thanks for the update on El Kelin that is useful information. The article I translated is from Valor Por Tamaulipas, not really maintstream Mexican media, apart from VPT I havent seen any other articles on El Kelin, since his incarceration, do you have an info on anything about him since 2004?
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Bjeff
@Spike: I have no idea. The smart move would be to keep it quiet though. They seem to have become very good at that.
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spike151
yes agreed see point 7 above.
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