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Zulema was from la union de tepito an offshot of cartel Neza they where the ones who took her out dont know why they say it was los zetas then again speculations say the N was Z .el grande called the shots for all those goons in morelos.her death had to do with nobody exchanging information on what was going in at the airport.arturo beltran had a trigger like a hairpin at the time .any indications rey zambada was would try too make a move in the airport and if zulema was talking to chapo.i doubt chapo was really in love.look what was up for take calderon was el grandes compadre even AMLo back then was in el grandes payroll thats where the arellanos would get all their protection those airports and el estado de mexico was all AFO before beltranes .
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Not true.  alejandrina his first and nly wife is not his cousin
neither is Gris
 
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hernandez book is filled with 'creative liberties'. for example  i n the trial her notion of chapo not leaving via laundry cart was shot down.

zulema body was in the trunk of a car, "Z" was carved into her back.  
 
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I meant alejandrina and Gris are rumored to be cousins. Not that they were el chapo’s cousins
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Zetas in morelos in 2008 ??got to bring some out of towners to slash chapos girl ? What an inconvinience .dont know if the zetas where in the same frequency yet at that time .also morelos was ran by la barbie and elgrande arturo was the only one in goodterms with the zetas .zetas going into morelos would never happen thats like inviting la barbie for dinner in matamoros at that time it would not happen !
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jaja sorry about that.  I haven't heard that but not sure.  


 
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I’m from a town 10minutes away from Jesús Maria and have heard it many times. But maybe it’s only rumored since they’re both from the same town. I can’t say with full certainty that they are cousins.

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El Chapo's 90-year-old mother said she has faith that the president will do something to extradite the capo to Mexico.

https://www.tabascohoy.com/nota/470528/pide-ayuda-a-amlo-mama-de-ldquo-el-chapo-rdquo


She seeks to travel to the US to see her son.

2/17/2019 12:09 AM / Mexico City

In an interview with a well-known American television network, the mother of Joaquín 'El Chapo' Guzmán, Consuelo Loera, 90 years old, said that she "wants to see her son". "My request is that they allow me to go and see him and move him to Mexico," said the woman, who lives in Badiraguato, Sinaloa, where President Andrés Manuel López Obrador recently visited.

She assured that she has even thought about making a request to the President so that Guzmán Loera can be extradited to Mexico. "I need someone to go with me, (to the US) because I can hardly walk anymore," the woman asked, in response to the "miracle" request she is seeking for the US to provide her with a humanitarian visa.

She added that she had the idea of ​​looking for Obrador during his visit to Badiraguato, but she regretted it.

"I have the faith, the confidence that he (AMLO) will do something for my son," declared the mother of "El Chapo." A lawyer from the family of 'El Chapo' and his mother sought to deliver a letter to the President asking him to transfer the drug trafficker to Mexico; However, it is unknown whether the alleged message ever got into the hands of the president.
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A lot of people were having difficulty thinking about him being in solitary confinement, because, well, you know, we're all human beings, people make mistakes, et cetera,” the juror said.

People are so simple and stupid some time, its just depressing.

I am nothing if not understanding and sympathetic of the circumstances that lead to his eventual conviction, but what transpired with Chapo Guzman was not a "mistake".
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I am not stupid, and have no qualms with his spending life in prison.  That said, i do have issue with him spending it in solitary confinement.  Death would be kinder.

I am against the type of SAMs he is force to live in, for just about anyone except a very few.  and be clear, it was created for terrorists not drug traffickers, it was created weeks after 911.

Solitary imo should be for  those who have posed a great danger to others.

as the judge said Chapo behaved as a gentleman and abides by the rules.

he is there because of escapes.  however I would have argued that he escaped from Mexican prisons where it is not unlawful to escape.  

In a sense he is being punished by solitary confinement for something he did in his home country that was not unlawful  
 
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A: Is the jurors so dumb that they actually follow the newsupdate on Chapo via the Vice-channel, during their service?

B: If another juror come forward and also tell that several other jurors watched Vicenews, would that be a cause for miss-trial or something? I mean if it can be proved by anyone else that jurors gained input from media during their service it can be devastating for the outcome of the verdict, right?
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Only the phrase "we're all human beings, we all make mistakes" is the offending phrase, by which I described as stupid, it is just an unfathomably simplistic and inaccurate view of the situation.

Your post is accurate, and I sympathize but that's just the way the game goes.  
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oh ok thanks for the distinction...

but remember--they head from CWs who were as bad or worse, that can throw off perspective.

there is movement to change the rules of confinement.  the game changed after 911 and should be clearly defined.
 
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They should put an end to the jury system and let a professional panel of judges handle verdicts.
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I tend to agree, though there would be a valid concern that they would overwhelmingly favor the prosecution.
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@J: In several European countries, wherein bench trials have taken over in recent years, evidence suggests otherwise. There are less people in prison after court system changes and pre-debate had the same concerns you raise.

The main problem is that laymen are not technically equipped in what the law actually says and are moved emotionally, thus failing their duty.

I just followed a case in Europe, which was actually pretty hilarious, where a policeman was indicted for corruption and for aiding a drug trafficker. He would receive money indirectly and other services from the drug trafficker while sending coded messages whenever it was safe or not to cross over. The jury found him guilty on the count of corruption, but not for aiding and abetting a drug trafficker, which is just not technically possible.
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Had a favor to ask see if anyone can help me or guide me in the right direction. This morning i seen the interview/press confrence jose luis Gonzalez attorney of chapo guzman had about giving AMLO president of Mexico the letter from chapos mother Consuelo Loera. In that Confress they threw more allegations and if I heard correct had evidence or proof of giving EPN 185 million $ and how much vehicles were used and who and where they gave it to. But now its erased n video has been edited n cut without that statement. I wasnt sure if it was about the case in NYC n allegations by informant or they themselves had it. Was in break at work and when I tried to go back n watch it again it said video has been deleted.  Heres pieces that they have used of confress



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