Dr. Mireles Kicked out of AD's??

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@pepe   EPN is doing everything he can to bring them down... So just curious are 24 horas and others reputable sources?

Chivis has said quadratin is a PRI mouthpiece, so just checking.
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Ahhh.... poor magician.  Feeling a bit persecuted?  jajajajaja  It's okay, you'll get over it.  
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Wow they want him to undergo a psychological evaluation. The vote was unanimous...




"Comunicación protagónica con los medios sin información real, falta de transparencia con el manejo de recursos que Mireles ha obtenido para el movimiento, de los cuales aseguran desconocer el destino, y un comportamiento inadecuado, aunado a acciones de él que provocaron la muerte de cinco integrantes de autodefensas."


Some of the reasons for his departure:

- Communicating with the media without actual facts.

- Failure to show where all the money/donations went.

- Overall bad judgement

- His actions led to the death of 5 AD members


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 You right Magician.

I counted 23 municipalities and yeah some do say "de acuerdo". Wasn't it 26 that were part of the commission? Can't wait to get more info. Still early! That's still a lot of votes and the "mental" thing makes sense. That latest video was straaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaange.

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http://www.am.com.mx/notareforma/37405

"Sin embargo, autodefensas de Tepalcatepec afirmaron que el acuerdo fue tomado solamente por integrantes del movimiento en La Huacana y Buenavista Tomatlán."

- AD's from Tepalcatepec state that the agreement was only signed by the AD's from La Huacana and Buenavista Tomatlán.



"El doctor Mireles está en este momento reunido con 34 de los 36 municipios levantados (en armas) para definir acuerdos relacionados con la campaña de desarme y desmovilización que vence el día 10 (de mayo)", comentó Talía Vázquez Alatorre, colaboradora del movimiento de autodefensas."

- A Mireles spokesperson says the DR. is in a meeting with 34 of 36 municipal AD leaders discussing the "disarmament" agreements.





IDK this shit is ridiculous... El Americano's signature is there. And Mireles says he's with Americano?

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Yeah, when I saw Smurf will still be one of two temporary leaders, that was the first thing I thought.  Basically a coup.

Strange and stranger.
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Obviously they (CT) knew that if they got one of the leaders to go over to the dark side, as Smurf did, then the whole thing could crumble.

Does not bode well for Michoacan, and that is the biggest issue.
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http://www.tvnws.com/falso-que-me-hayan-expulsado-es-un-mitote-de-papa-pitufo-mireles/

MORELIA, Mich., 7 de mayo de 2014.- José Manuel Mireles Valverde señaló que es falso que lo hayan expulsado del Consejo de Autodefensas de Michoacán.

Mireles afirmó que Estanislao Beltrán, líder de las autodefensas convocó a una reunión con ese fin, pero esta tuvo mínima convocatoria.

Asimismo, indicó que el Consejo lo conforman 36 municipios y sólo uno tuvo presencia en el conclave que tenía como objetivo su destitución.

    Es falso, fue un mitote de Papá Pitufo, no hubo convocatoria, el Consejo lo formamos 36 municipios y sólo acudió una parte de Buenavista, de ahí que rechazo que me haya destituido”, confirmó.

Por último, enfatizó que tanto Estanislao Betrán, como Los Viagras y Beto El 5, “están agarrando otro rumbo”, y agregó que lo ha denunciado públicamente.


Mireles says BS... Papa Pitufo is behind this.      
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Igualmente pepe.
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jeeze I am gone for the night and all this happens?

I alluded to the fact I was told two shocking and confidential things this past week, and one was related to what has happened.  This was expected.  I long disagreed with Dr M about Americano and smurf.  I did not think they were good people.  then two weeks ago I was watching a video that I had posted of carlos Santana (not that one) of viagras and tuta and was someone flit in and out the video, I played it a few times and caught a screenshot.  It was AMericano.  I sent it to Dr M.  then everything hit the fan.

I wish I could say what I know.  I will ask if it is now ok.

actually it began with the caleta scenario and the document found in smurfs truck.  He has been releasing fake ADs as they were being detained waiting for feds.  and cut a cartel/state gob deal.  in part to get rid of Dr M...anyway possible.  I told him he should quit.  because he will be killed.  But he won't.  Smurf turned after the plane crash, and unilaterally took over AD without a vote and kick Dr M to the curb after the Pais interview.  thinking he was gone forever.  I mean who knew?  I thought he was gone also.

ok about the document.  not sure but I think in reality it only represents and not unanimously 2 ad groups out of the 36.  BTW, Smurf is a liar he was part of the set up of Hipolito, to remove him when he joined Americano.

I don't know what will happen, if Smurf and Americano gets the needed support, by hook or crook, anything can happen.  They have been paid in money and lemon and avocado farms.  So there is no turning back.  


here is the screenshot.  it was from fall of 2013 when Viagras split from ct





I just tried to read some newer articles and this just in 60 min ago for Valo Mich sdr:



Sobre que el Dr Míreles ha sido destituido como vocero del CAM NO LO PODEMOS CONFIRMAR todavía , hasta en unas horas que hagamos contacto con el consejo mas confiable que es el de Tepalcatepec ,si esto fuera cierto ( lo de Míreles destituido ) no seria sorpresa , ya que el Dr Míreles siempre ha hablado con la verdad , y sus ultimas entrevistas donde señala muchas verdades sobre lo que pasa en Michoacan , en especial la entrevista con Aristegui , no les ha parecido a los H3 ni a Castillo.

Over which the Dr look at them has been dismissed as the spokesman of the CAM LO we cannot confirm yet, even in a few hours we make contact with the Council more reliable that it is that of Tepalcatepec, if this were true (the of look them ousted) would not surprise, since Dr look at them always has spoken the truth, and their last interviews where designates many truths about what happens in Michoacan especially the interview with Aristegui, not them has like the H3 to Castillo

from valor Apatzingán

False that I have removed from the CAM, said Mireles MORELIA, Mich., 7 of may 2014.-false that I have been expelled from the Council of self-defense forces of Michoacán, said this Wednesday night José Manuel Mireles Valverde, who said that Estanislao Beltran, AUC leader convened a meeting to that end, but it had minimal call.

 Interview via phone, and after that would emerge journalistic versions on the fact, the medical profession said that the Council make it 36 municipalities and only one had presence in the conclave that was intended to his dismissal.

 "It is false, was a mitote of Papa Smurf, there was no call, Council is formed by 36 municipalities and only attended a part of Buenavista, hence I reject that I have removed", he said.

 Emphasized that both Estanislao Betrán, and the viagra and Beto El 5, "they are holding another tack", and added that he has denounced it publicly since unfortunately the federal Commissioner, Alfredo Castillo, "them is overlapping".

 "Remember that we do not support criminals and these people already walk with other rolls that do not represent the goals and the ideals for which we got up", he highlighted.

 Finally, he pointed out that the work of the self-defense forces already ended, since after tomorrow is the deadline to hand over weapons and will now be by way of the legal figure, registered and given people's high as a rural guard who will continue his fight. (Translated by Bing)

and this editorial from valor:

 
Friends a while ago that I was not going to all my friends and all the followers of this your page but I can not ignore what is happening with our movement and the circus of the Government which proposes to sell to the public opinion the echo has already controlled the State with its famous disarmament and ball of lambe eggs at this time which dismissed Dr Mireles

 look at them once more but I ask you If a few people make decisions about the thousands of people who support him and all the people who support it that we are thousands and now the mobster, murderer that already asta mentioned commander charged fees five is the one who gives the statements because they do not ask him for the reason that took out it of Tepalcatepec this truth

 which is to give riza and according to the Smurf I endorse the destitusion of Dr look at them I only tell them that they ask people if you are in accordance with the decision of those 20 0 30 persons will leave you for a reflection of what is really happening with the movement we all know that the infiltrators are what you were looking for removal of which for them is in their way as they makes it wrong

movement clear since it is the only one that tells them the truth to those sold to the Government and that is a thorn in shoes for the Commissioner and the Government since the other has no eggs to do so since they are sold with the new lineup of the H3 and its allies while the Government disprove it that this is not really the most that we are in this we know that is true and only the are covering up by get along with all the commanders of the Commissioner to look good with the opinion published it is sad to see that the Government does not learn the lesson again once more partnering with this new group as it did with the Templars and the results you know them till their same political party were well stuck with the CT

and all that follow the same line of supporting the H3 and its third hermanda, but we already lying ones and will return it to do and maybe this time is much more large movement since we will be with more experience to not make the same mistakes allow to any repentant have to re organise AUC true companions to continue supporting the Dr

look at them and hope that his people not you back but if that happens then to see other peoples that we support it but we will not let only as to echo the Government removed the armored unit was provided to you in a few words you want to be killed because it hinders them that is the truth because they know the danger that has and if they removed his armoured security unit , called do them to demonstrate to all our support by this leader who has no hair in the language and say things as they are sincerely your friend. Aguililla free official share that is of has everyone of this new destitusion for a few to the maximum leader recognized by all. (Translated by Bing)

sorry bad bing but you can see it here https://www.facebook.com/valor.por.apatzingan?fref=nf



 
The way I see it.... the more people that don't like me, the less people I have to please
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weren't you defending americano when dr m vouched for him?

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"Although FB has successfully turned opinion against Americano, I could not find any links to criminality, past or present.  So I asked Dr Mireles who verified my findings and says Americano is a good man, and the ruckus in Ruana is a long standing personal issue between Mora and Americano.  They hate each other.  It was in the beginning about Moras niece, then Americanos mother and a land dispute, many lawsuits etc.  The only history I can find is Americano was kidnapped by CT when visiting his mother, he then joined AD.  So I asked myself, why would this guy join CT when he was kidnapped by them?  I began digging.  But I am at a point that I may ask for an Interview.  He has not given one, but I think he may give me one.  Or maybe wishful thinking.  "

 chivis from the H3 cartel thread....

I'm not trying to sound snotty...but you come off across as naive sometimes...and dr m was VOUCHING for this guy? a guy on video hanging out w tuta? stuff like this is what makes me question the sincerity of Dr m......
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