Current Events in the Gulf Cartel

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Itzli
Exactly, but like I said, Sheila is sometimes blamed while other times El Chive is blamed. Regardless, it seems outside forces are the ones that are helping dictate the outcome. It's not about what is best for Tampico, it's what is best for Matamoros or Reynosa.
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Counterattack on Altamira
At first it looked like things were quieting down in Tampico, where Los Jimmy were attacking Los Dragones. Now it's being reported that Los Dragones have counterattacked on Altamira, apparently from where Los Jimmy are based.
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I have been going over my notes and I have some more info to add. I will try to get to it tonight.

-During the funeral El Wuasa who was apparently beheaded, his brother, sister-in-law, wife, and three cousins were murdered. I believe some other family members were kidnapped. The hit was carried out by members of the ciclones driving 5 trucks including a hummer with as many as 20-30 hitmen carrying out the attack
-El Chive is sometimes known as J2. He was second inline when Comander Jimmy was killed. His right hand man is El Guason J16
-El Sheyla once worked under Coss, Sierra, and K14. He took part in the war with Los Zetas for the Tampico plaza back in 2010
-El Sheyla is being supported by K10 and El Flaco Sierra
-If El Sheyla's faction defeats El Chive's faction El Sheyla and Comondante 50 will control the CDG Sur
-El K14 was also known as El Fidel and the K stands for Kaibiles which was Sierra's group. Word is that K14 had long been talking to the government. Many people suspected this was the reason he was not taken down with Sierra or Coss.
-El Chive is backed by grupo escorpiones de lazaro, grupo michelin del gordo may, grupo jimmys and El marrano de cucui



Some more interesting CDG stuff-

De hecho la plaza de Tampico está en franca disputa desde finales del año pasado ,La quieren los de González,Los de Aldama (los sierra,Luis Kadur -"el bisquetín" alias el K23"y Jorge Garza alias el K29 ),Se sabe que otro grupo formado por el K10 Y EL K31(el gay Tijerina) tuvieron temor de enfrentar al K14 y hasta los de Cd Valles de Alfredo Martinez Aguilar alias "el papayo" quien tambien es originario de Tampico andan tras "la plaza Tampico

I also found this last night. I dont have time to translate it. In a nut shell it talks about El Sheyla being in prison and running a extortion racket and El Wuasa not supporting him. The post also talks about El Sheyla's position within the Dragones and lists the names of different Dragones members If someone wants to translate this please be my guest.

sheyla ya Wuasa q dejaran de cobrar cuotas a comercios que dejaran de hacer llamadas de extorcion, q dejaran de secuestrar gente, que dejaran de robar vehículos en el interior del pueblo, que dejaran de parar carros con familias normales yq no los robaran, y nunka hizo caso, x el contrario, se revelo y les declaro la guerra a todos los grupos q conforman la sona sur del CDG, a pesar de q ellos son un numero muy reducido de elementos yq la mayoría de ellos no sabe ni el manejo de un revolver pues son puros wuercos cagaleros como lo fe en algún tiempo el cuando era mesero y saca borrachos de los tujurios del centro de tampico, fue así como desde la semana pasada empezaron los dragones Entre ellos Pakon, Mileta o Sinoe, el Goyo, el Markitos (el de las muletas), el Cachetes (kien tiene pokito q salio del penal, inventaron a sus seguidores q k10 yl gente de la frontera endria a apoyarlos para kedarse ellos con toda la plasa, yq el q estuviera con el hiba a tomar un buen puesto en la sona y se le hiba a permitir hacer lo q kisieran, y al que no lo apoyara, se las hiba a cobrar con sus familias y los hiba a empesar a matar para q los demas pendejos se dieran cuenta deblas vosas, asi fue como empesaron a atacar gente inocente, mataron gente x el aeropuerto, X wuallmart de la avenida hidalgo, x wuallmart de alijadores, x infonavit, x la petrolera, pero solo eran gente normal, por q cuando se han dado de frente a balazos, dejan abandonados los vehículos y las armas y salen corriendo, o de plano hace lo q el putitivde Sheyla, que desde el primer dia ya no esta por aquí, se fue con el supuesto royo de que hiba x apoyo de la gente de fuera y lo q hizo solamente fue salvar su peyejo, dejando a toda esa bola de inútiles q siguieran enwuilados y cagando el palo en la sona, ayer apareció un cuerpo con una cartulina q confirma lo q les digo, Sheyla no keria dejar de secuestrar ni quería dejar de cobrar cuotas x eso se revelo yx lo tanto se le concidera traidor a el ya todo su grupo Dragon
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Huge banner hung in Tampico, I took this off of Valor por Tamaulipas:



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Here's a couple mainboard comments that I thought were worth translating:

Also so that you all know they want to kill all the people of k-14 because k-14 began to snitch so that they don't send him to the U.S.  K-14 snitched on Comandante Jr. of Grupo Fox... El Jr. was the one that kidnapped the guy from the United States that escaped him in Matamoros.. k-14 began snitching on all the rival groups that operate in south Tamaulipas since they snitched on him.  The truth is that it is a (slang for chaos) in Tampico...

Everyone from Matamoros wants the head of Chive because the "wey" was only a lookout that was able to rise from that level only because others died.  Even though El Sheila is a dirty kidnapper he advanced because the "wey" did go out to fight and took good orders... on the contrary El Chives "vale verga" (slang for is worthless) and does whatever he wants.  El Chive along with El Cebos and Walter were the ones that killed El Wuasa and his family in the cemetery.  El Guason also is with Chive.

Who knows what the hell will happen.. on the side those from Matamoros no longer want there to be kidnappings in Tampico.. but on the other hand El Chive does not know how to take orders and always "pasa de verga" (slang for goes over the line).. so for now those from Matamoros are helping El Sheila even though he is a "puto" kidnapper.. and well from there El Chive asked for "chiche" (literally breast, slang for support) from those of Reynosa

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It is not true that of the banners I live here in Tango and that of the banners is a total fable that notinfomex published supposedly from an email...here the fight is between the CDG there are a "chingo" (lots) of "estacas" (units of cartel members) of Los Dragones, XW, Js, Alpas, the "estacas" of El Chive, they are still "dando en la madre" amongst themselves there are so many "estacas" that are in the center and around that Los Zetas do not enter...a friend commented to me that from Gonsales and around Tampico there are people of the CDG taking care so that enemies do not enter nor other cells of the Gulf to help those that are in conflict even the soldiers are outside the conflict so that the CDG itself fixes the problem and it looks like the chief of Tampico will remain Sheyla and Dragones along with support from XW's and Cs..greeting from Tango war zone.
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Well fellas this shit is totally out of whack. I truely believe that there are many within the cartel that dont even understand the infighting and why its going on, or who's side everyone is on. I will add that I talked to someone who lives in south Tamps and he told me that the violence in the last week has been worse then when the CDG was at war with the Z for the plaza 5 years ago. He also told me that everyone knows that the Gov. is not getting involved they are letting them fight it out and that the only thing citizens are being told is to stay inside. One last quick thing about the pics that were posted of Comandante Cortez. I stated that I thought they were actually his son known as JR. I did some more digging and I keep seeing that the pics are actually of a cousin of the Cortez family. The cat is a CDG sicario, but just cannon fodder nothing on the level of Sr. Cortez or even Cortez Jr.
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El Plata
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@Itzli, and @Adam3 I just wanted to ask you guys something. I am noticing more and more on FB and Twitter that when people talk about the infighting they always seem to state that it all started when El Coss was captured. What I am finding so interesting is the fact that they are all saying that both X20 Mario Pelon AND Homero Cárdenas Guillén took over control of the cartel and were considering equal top leaders after Coss. This is coming from people who live their day-to-day lives with the CDG. If anyone would know its the people of Tamaulipas. Its not being reported as new news, its always stated as fact like everyone knew. I am finding this very interesting as most people thought it was X20 who was the supreme leader. I do not believe El Majadero's name was ever mentioned as top dog until X20 went down. The more and more I am reading it seems that when El Coss went down, both X20 and El Majadero were elected to head the cartel equally. We all know that Homero has been in the game for a long, long, time but always kept a very low profile. It seems that Homero controlled the money and drug shipment side of business while X20 was more of an enforcer and handled day to day operations. It seems they had the same type of structure and agreement at the top as Z40 and Lazca had. It would also make sense as to why when X20 was captured, we didnt hear about anyone jockeying for top position because Homero Cárdenas Guillén was already in control. What do you guys make of this? I am also reading more and more that El Coss is giving orders from prison. I dont believe for a second that all the factions would listen but I wouldnt be surprised if he was behind some of the moves of the CDG Sur before K14 went down. Has anyone heard anything about Coss making moves from his prison cell?
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My personal opinion is that looking at X20 and Homero as equal leaders is somewhat correct but very misleading. I look at the CDG as a banner organization with two distinct factions and multiple sub-factions stemming from the war between Rojos and Metros, as well as the fighting between "El Junior" Cardenas and "El Coss". Due to these historic divisions, along with geographical nuances, they controlled their separate factions without interference on the other.

But to get more into specifics, like you said, Homero's been around a long long time, back to at least when his brother Osiel was running things. Definitely Homero has been a shadowy figure, operating in the background without many knowing about him. I would define him more as an operator, his primary concern was drug smuggling, in particular logistics of exporting drugs across the border. So Homero has been content with really just controlling Matamoros as it gives him oversight over a corridor to allow him to smuggle.

With Homero one should look at the role "K14" played. We now know that he worked directly under Osiel and was closely tied to "El Coss" and "El Sierra". Historically operating out of Tampico, "K14" also was more of an operator, however his focus was in importation and negotiating with Columbian suppliers. Because of his background, it's understandable that he and his followers were unlikely to fall under the direct command of Homero. Yet a symbiotic relationship between "K14" and Homero was easy to develop as "K14" controlled a port and was used to importing drugs while Homero controlled a smuggling corridor and was used to exporting drugs.

On the flip side, X20 and Los Metros controlled multiple smuggling corridors through Reynosa and surrounding cities, however they lacked access to importation channels. Unlike Homer and "K14" who were protected by the sea, Los Metros were more vulnerable, especially considering that they were adjacent to Zeta territory. Therefore they were in a constant state of offense, as well as the need to develop a supply line for drugs. It is no surprise that they would incur into Monterrey and Zacatecas. I believe they relied heavily on Los Caballeros Templarios and La Corona to supply them with drugs in the first place. These dynamics would lead them to also rely on kidnapping and extortion to supplement income.

In the end, I think in a broad sense you are right, but I have not seen any evidence of X20 and Homero working together in a fashion like Lazca and Z40. I do believe that they realized that it was counter productive to fight each other and let each other operate in their respective spheres as need be.
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Itzli
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Metro Territory

It was recently reported on Valor por Tamaulipas that vehicles identified as belonging to Los Zetas have been spotted in Ciudad Mier.  It was said that the presence of the CDG there has diminished sufficiently for incursions to take place or even the possibility that Los Zetas are beginning to get a foothold in the area. In reply, another person stated that it has been said Ciudad Mier passing through Nueva Ciudad Guerrero all the way to Nuevo Laredo is Zeta territory while Miguel Aleman, Camargo, Diaz Ordaz, and Reynosa belong to Los Metros.
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Itzli
I recently posted about the new list of twelve cartel members being sought out in Tamualipas (Most Wanted CDG Members). While not directly stated, the original articles imply that all but one of the CDG members listed are plaza heads. I find it very possible that there may be higher ranking members of the CDG.

In order to get a better feel of the list, I created the following map with the alias of a wanted member placed on their respective municipality:


By comparing this with the Valor por Tamualipas map showing the divisions of the state according to cartel factions, the list does not include any members of CDG Sur. The full list of names can be divided as follows:

CDG Ribereña
1. José Antonio " La Hamburguesa" Romo López- Ciudad Mier
2. Juan Carlos "El Chuma" de la Cruz Moctezuma- Miguel Alemán
3. José Ismael "Polimenso" Mendoza Falcón- Frontera Chica

CDG Reynosa/Los Metros
1. "El Comandante Paquito"- Reynosa
2. Juan Manuel "Juan Perros" Rodríguez García- Río Bravo.
3. Carlos ""Carlitos Whiskies" González Escobar- Nuevo Progreso
4. Eduardo Ismael "El Negro" Flores Borrego- Valle Hermoso.
5. Juan Francisco "El Metro 103" Saenz Tamez- head of sicarios.

CDG Matamoros
1. "El Orejón/Ciclón 7"- Matamoros
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Could you make a basic breakdown of the factions allied with each other and their leaders, and the ones they are fighting against. I am not sure how the 4 groups aligned, and which two are fighting against which two.

So much great info. You are doing an amazing job with this info. This is exactly what I wanted my original thread to be. I have read through this whole thread and I got bits and pieces, but why have the two groups aligned the way they have? What I mean is it geographical? Family connections? or how?

My hats off to you my friend, I had hoped to get a thread like this started for each of the cartels so it would be easy to just come here, click a thread and immediately see the latest for each cartel. I am NOWHERE near as informed as you are about this stuff. This is some amazing reporting.
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just curious what ever happened to el acido of the cdg ? we saw a lot of him at one time, then he disappeared.
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El Plata
Last I heard he was CDG in Zacatecas. I believe he was captured and is in prison, but you have to take everything you hear with a grain of salt especially the CDG. I don't believe he was ever a jefe, he just had a bunch of corridos and posted alot of pics online. The CDG has different kinds of Commanders/Comandantes. The top dog is the plaza commander. Now there is also a commander of halcones, sicarios, money, and more for each area or now with the infighting factions. So just because someone calls themselves comandante does not mean that they are the top dog. I remember hearing about a cat who was incharge of pirating movies and music and even he went by comandante! lol!
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Itzli
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I'm glad you appreciate this thread. As a participant of your thread, I found it to be extremely informative and was disappointed to see it die off. A few weeks ago, as I saw two active threads with CDG information relevant to each thread being posted I thought the casual reader would be better served if the information could be found in one place rather than being double posted or constantly referring to the separate thread. Thus I definitely found inspiration in what you had previously done.

You are too kind in your comments. While I have followed and researched Mexican cartels for years now, for quite some time CDG has been a confusing mess. When I became aware of Valor por Tamaulipas, it opened the door to me so much. By using my research techniques and analysis with the additional flow of information, I feel more confident in my assessments, but I definitely feel there are other individuals much more informed than I am. That is the beauty of this forum in that there is room for sharing information, thoughts, and opinions.

Now as to your direct question, I wish I knew more about the four groups but there is definitely gaps in my knowledge. It seems to me that the CDG Ribereña and CDG Reynosa/Los Metros groups are allied, though I have seen a passing comment that "El Metro 103" does not like "El Chuma". Likewise, it seems that CDG Matamoros and CDG Sur are aligned. It does not appear that there is an active fight between any of the major factions, though there is definitely tension between Los Metros and CDG Matamoros. Beyond that it seems most conflicts are internal, though groups sometimes act via proxy. I feel that geography has been the biggest factor in the origin of the alliances, though the history of Los Metros vs. Los Rojos has played a part. Even so, I feel that the whole Metros vs. Rojos was played up a bit too much and oversimplifies the dynamics within the cartel as a whole.
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