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CDG needs to get its act together

dario
I wonder about current CDG leadership.

I see Zetas killing a lot more Golfos than Golfos kill Zetas. Zetas expanding and CDG can't keep its own turf.

Z is heating plazas and chopping people up.

Filthy ratazz will not stop until they shake down every man woman and child.

The 53 victims of the casino fire would be alive if we had no ratazz.

I know the public should cooperate more and report. If they see something they should say something whether its a convoy or just a few halcones.

The streets need to be cleaned up but the current leadership is not doing the job. Should we hope for a change in CDG leadership if M3's death was part of a larger internal beef? I hope CDG won't feud among itself while the Z keeps expanding.

I wish it weren't true but I hate seeing the wrong people winning when it hurts everybody else. At least when Osiel ran things it was only a problem for los gringos.
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dario
If anybody from CDG is reading this I mean no disrespect just we in NL are so tired of Z and want them gone. We need El Diablo or the best you got.
DD
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DD
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@Dario.  You said. "I know the public should cooperate more and report. If they see something they should say something whether its a convoy or just a few halcones."  
I agree that is what should be done in ideal world, but the problem is report to who (or is that whom).  A long time ago I thought about trying to set up something like a "Crime Stopper" program in some neighborhoods here.  But I almost think it would be a joke and I think all the neighbors would be afraid to report.
Words are powerful weapons, be careful how you use them.
DD
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DD
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I don't remember if it was Molly Molloy or the "El Sicario" in the book of the same name that said the violence is really a smokescreen, because usually all the battles do not really interrupt the flow of drugs.  The capos like it because it takes the resources of the govt. away from drug interdiction and forces the govt to focus on the people who are doing all the violence.  It makes some sense.
Words are powerful weapons, be careful how you use them.
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dario
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Right. In some Zeta heavy plazas I think it would be hard for some people to find someone who knows the local CDG. Some places I'd be scared to ask that question because the Z might find out they were asking. It would be easy if the plaza was CDG and all the cops knew but those aren't the areas which need the most help.

I don't know about how untraced phones work but maybe they could include a zetastoppers line in narcomantas where they need the citizens help.

i think they should clean up the halcones first. They are everywhere here. They give the sicarios the intelligence and they make life hell for the ordinary people getting shaken down. easier to spot and a lot softer target too.

I don't know anybody who knows who to report to. My brother might. I'll ask him but other than that I don't know. I suppose that is part of the problem. The people who see the ratazz crawling in the streets don't know who to tell.
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dario
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DD wrote
I don't remember if it was Molly Molloy or the "El Sicario" in the book of the same name that said the violence is really a smokescreen, because usually all the battles do not really interrupt the flow of drugs.  The capos like it because it takes the resources of the govt. away from drug interdiction and forces the govt to focus on the people who are doing all the violence.  It makes some sense.
They like to heat up the other guys plaza but why their own? When things get hot they come in and bust loads and take down cells. I think they like violence on the other cartels turf.

CDG can't like the violence from the Zetas. The ordinary people hate it. We want things back to how it was before the Zetas went beserk.
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Jack S. Shaw
For the person that asked about el Diablo:

El Diablo from CDG  may be this guy:

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/07/2nd-in-command-of-gulf-cartel-is.html

This is El Diablo with his mask on thats been confirmed was him doing his work:



For the person that asked about El Toro the CDG sicario, this is him:


Ive studied and monitored these guys since 2000 till 2009 and I can say is these guys you dont want to meet in a dark alley.   They are brutal and vicious.  No cartel is better than others.   They all kill innocent people and harm the beautiful country of Mexico.    
 
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Jack S. Shaw
here is mr. diablo again:

   
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dario
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Well Jack that is why we need him. Who will stop the Zetas? Not the police. The police are the Zetas. The Army works for the Zetas too.

My father is an honest man. They make him sell pirate software and pay them and if he does not sell enough he has to pay anyway. They help themselves to merchandise from his shop.

My brother's wife was attacked in the day in a park by three men cruising in a lobo. The Zetas ride around raping and nobody will stop them or even report the problem.

Zetas shoot shopkeepers and make business close.

it is easy for you to say ignorant things from the safety of a gringo suburb on the safe side of the border. You do not live with Zetas every day. If you did then you would know they are not all the same. You only care about the loads which cross your border. you do not care about what happens on this side. what zetas do to the people. This never happened when CDG ran things.
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Guerro
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I was thinking the same thing. But I think this guy Jack and Dario are one in the same. Next thing you know el diablo will be on the forum again jaja.
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Chivis
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I thought the same...

and the CDG shit is pathetic..

enough said
 
The way I see it.... the more people that don't like me, the less people I have to please
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dario
So who will solve it? You? And who else?

Until we can choose a perfect city I will hope for the lesser of evils. And the lesser of evils that used to run things didn't rape kids or throw piñas into bars. Like to safely walk the streets again. Too much to ask?

So who else is going to save us. Flaco won't come this far east. and he has his hands full now

what about if Zetas buy the next president and use his administration like Chapo uses the current one. Then everybody will know how it feels.
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Guerro
Yeah no lie this guy has a very creative imagination jaja. This guy jack is supposedly an ICE agent who work in Brownsville jaja and is constantly talking about el diablo and the other person (dario) is now talking about how great the CDG is. Does that remind you of anyone jajaja. Its not hard to connect the dots.
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Chivis
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Zeta president was to be this election, but it was decided to hold off until the following as he took another powerful position instead.
which does not mean there will not be influence.  There is always "ïnfluence"
 
that said.  as much as an asshole calerdon can be...pompous to the max, stubborn-pompous mix is not pretty, I do not think he is in bed
with anyone and is honestly trying .  I respect that.  that does not mean there are those he surrounds himself with, those he has chosen,
that are not in bed with narcos for personal gain.  It is what it is...the way of Mexico.  I am tempted to say something crude right now, a saying
I heard in Mexico...but I will refrain. [-( not talking

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So who will solve it? You? And who else?

Until we can choose a perfect city I will hope for the lesser of evils. And the lesser of evils that used to run things didn't rape kids or throw piñas into bars. Like to safely walk the streets again. Too much to ask?

So who else is going to save us. Flaco won't come this far east. and he has his hands full now

what about if Zetas buy the next president and use his administration like Chapo uses the current one. Then everybody will know how it feels.

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dario
So what is your plan for people trapped in Zeta infested areas?
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AJ
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I agree. I'm choosing the lesser of evils too. All of the cartels are bad but the zetas are the most reckless of the cartels by far. Constantly i'm hearing stories of people who have been attacked by the z's or i'm reading articles about a new zeta massacre, and it never ends. This cartel has an addiction to violence. They seem to thrive on this reckless image. There's too many bums from mexico and guatemala working for the z's. They are too spread out like roaches.

Birds of a feather flock together. Get rid of los zetas and everyone else who's affiliated with them. The juarez cartel is slowly breaking down and its just a matter of time till el chapo takes over the juarez plaza. Destroy the beltran leyva cartel and la familia michoacana. They are both fractured cartels. Get rid of them now.

In the end, if el chapo can remain untouched, it should be the sinaloa cartel that is left standing, the way pendejo calderon planned it from the beginning. I'm okay with that, as long as the war ends so mexico can start to rebuild itself.

I can see a moderately peaceful mexico with the sinaloa cartel ruling the north and the CDG ruling the gulf coast but it just seems almost impossible for me to imagine a peaceful mexico with los zetas scattered all over the country. They have to be the biggest threat to the CDS. I can't imagine both the CDS and los zetas existing peacefully together.

Some hard-headed people need to understand that the cartels will always exist. They will never destroy all of them. So mexico should try to focus on the more reckless cartels first like los zetas. Calderon should focus on monterrey and acapulco. El chapo will take care of juarez and tijuana.

FUCK LOS ZETAS AND ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS THEM.
CHIVIS FOREVER
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El Regio
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Buela I smell a troll CDG supporter. lol

Too bad Metro 3 is now Muerto3, lol looks like your husband Mr. Lazcano will be taking over soon.

"The Tea Bag Party has a 10-15% approval rating. Depending on who you ask. ja ja ja" The wise Ajulio.
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