Arturo Beltran Leyva and Zetas connection????

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Arturo Beltran Leyva and Zetas connection????

Tijuano
Anyone knows how close these two groups were?

I know most people claim Z´s are the ones giving the support to BLO but to me it seems it was the other way around, I remember a manta some time ago supposedly signed by Chapo in which he told Z40 that not even "El H" would be able to help him.

Some moments ago I was watching "Mamitos" interview when he was arrested, it seems to me as if he implied Arturo Beltran Leyva was their provider of cocaine, he mentions that when he died, they began working by themselves.

Anyone has more info on this?

Si vis pacem, para bellum
J
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J
It used to be said ABL gave the Zetas their contact down south for that, and let them into plazas in Sinaloa, as a result the Z's helped BLO, by not messing with their plazas or people, and when war came, they backed up Botas Blancos.  The squad that killed the Marina guys's family were Z's.
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Tijuano
Yeah, I remember about the Marine´s family.

So, in your opinion, Z´s were never under ABL?

Like I said, Mamito claims they went by themselves after Arturo's death, I don´t know what to make of that statement, it could mean they were left without an ally, or that they were finally without someone to answer to.
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635787at
Simply meant on there own to get the best source for the product needed , not getting it done by ABL in Mexico . Only reason the Beltran leyvas never died out like la familia and such cartels, is because there connects directly to the source which means the cheapest price for the purest côcaine which meant so much profit , money to spend and give to other cartels in help. You can  own all of Mexico as your plaza but cocaine ain't grown there.
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635787at
Zetas where getting better prices from ABL then from Central America and ABL product was more purer. No columbian wanted to make buisness with the dirty zetas.
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deelucky1
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When el botas  threatened Los jabalis  they took off to work for el chapo that's when he hires Los zetas to work for him in exchange he schools them how to work that's when zetas decided to go independent
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deelucky1
Se aproxima un 32
junto con un 36
el 7 le dice al 20
quiero que se ponga al 100
lo espero en la 27
empezando amanecer


that's a song that talks about one of their first arm wing called Los numeros .
el siete was the leader of the group he was in dispute with don Adan Salazar
in Sonora .Beltranes  operated down there then el botas and la Barbie created
Los gueritos it was something like la linea ex cops en federales to fight los
zetas . They worked alongside Los pelones
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Windycitykid
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Flashback weekend:

If you recall it was a bond that benefited both parties, Botas continues to recieve tontas en el puerto de Veracruz uninterrupted & Additional logistical support on the east coast from la ultima letra plus extra man power in el DF. the z were introduced to his Milatary contacts and recieved product & support.


Repost from my  orginal thread in 2012:

The bond between BLO and the la ultima letra was established by Arturo looking out for VCF. He provided contacts within the army "generals" to provide protection to his team. At that meeting VCF sent el dos letras & since la ultima letra was already collaborating with them in the northern states he invited z-3.

At this meeting it was agreed that if Arturo shared his contacts within the army z-3 would provide support & access to the ports in Veracruz. From this point forward la ultima letra provide logistical support from the port , moving Arturo's product north thru Nuevo Leon. Bootas Blancas also establish an agreement with z-3 to keep things quiet in Monterrey, especially in San Pedro where the majority of his family was living. La ultima letra relied on Arturo a lot during that time & even provided some of their best elite soldiers to Arturo in el DF. Which where later arrested with a large cache of high power weapons & explosives.

What we rarely hear about are the C-eye- a links / old contacts that Arturo & Hector made with Amado. Hector's house was raided in Querétaro in the late 90's, the pgr found a several spook material including books on how to distablize a country. Describing much of what we witness in the last 5 years in mex. The government also found several taped recorded conversations the Beltran brothers made with officials & other underworld figures, a trade they learned from el señor de Los celos.




Magic's 2012 post:

La cita con Los zetas
 A mediados de 2007, los Beltrán y Los Zetas ya habían suscrito pactos de no agresión y colaboraban en operaciones de importación de cocaína a gran escala, por la Aduana de Altamira, Tamaulipas. Acosta Chaparro acababa de salir de la cárcel militar. Por esas fechas, "El Grande" ubica otra reunión del General con los Beltrán, pero esta vez en uno de sus ranchos del Ajusco, en la Ciudad de México, donde tenían caballerizas, animales exóticos, una alberca techada, salones de juego y un helipuerto. "La reunión a la que convocó don Arturo Beltrán Leyva en aquel lugar era para recibir a Los Zetas y presentarles al General Acosta Chaparro; Los Zetas llegaron al lugar a bordo de una avioneta y aterrizaron en una pista clandestina ubicada en Cuautla, Morelos, de donde los recogimos en helicóptero; del interior de la avioneta descendieron Miguel Treviño 'El Z-40' y su hermano Omar Treviño 'El Z-42', quienes iban acompañados también de (José Luis Ledesma) 'JL', encargado de Vicente Carrillo, en Ciudad Juárez", contó Villarreal a la PGR. Los Zetas, recuerda, acudieron a "El Barbas" porque era amigo de Acosta y querían que el General los ayudara a relacionarlos con militares de alto nivel en las comandancias militares en Tamaulipas y Veracruz. Su urgencia radicaba en que 15 días antes el líder de Los Zetas, Heriberto Lazcano "El Lazca", había sido acorralado por militares en los límites de ambas entidades, en la zona Huasteca. Lazcano logró escapar, gracias a que "El Barbas" le envió un helicóptero para rescatarlo. A la reunión del Ajusco arribó "El Borrado" acompañado de Acosta Chaparro. Llegaron a la hora de la comida, cuando el rancho estaba rodeado de un dispositivo de sujetos armados. En la mesa, Arturo Beltrán presentó a Los Zetas con el militar. "'El Z-40' se dirigió al General y le señaló que tenía el interés de conocer a los encargados de la Zona Militar en Tamaulipas y Veracruz, para poder facilitar el libre andar de ellos y el trasiego de drogas en dichos estados, ya que no tenían arreglos con generales, únicamente con pura tropa", recordó el narcotraficante. "Arturo Beltrán Leyva ordenó al General Acosta Chaparro que se pusiera de acuerdo con 'El Z-40' para que acudiera a una cita, con la finalidad de que lo presentaran con Heriberto Lazcano". A los dos días, Acosta aceptó reunirse con "El Lazca", contó "El Grande" a la PGR.

Post http://borderland-beat-forum.924382.n3.nabble.com/Interesting-Article-on-General-Arturo-Acosta-Chaparro-td3956913.html#a3957265
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deelucky1
At that time el botas had no more contacts that's when he started killing everybody he even killed el borrado who had  contacts with el SIEDO el general chapparo was done at that time he was already discovered goes to show how all those zetas at that particular time started dropping like flies .the journalist
from el imparcial jimenez was the one who introduced los tres caballeros to MEXICO and all their contacts with the milatary goverment police list of names the whole nine yards thats how almost everybody got caught and killed from the BLO that journalist was picked up by el 9 or el 7 and was never seen again.him sharing his contacts to los zetas was a lie either by him or el grande who is now witnees protection and el general chapparo was executed .whoever  wrote that article got confused beltranes got their contacts when they worked with el guero palma not VCF and el botas never shared contacts with the VCF either because all of the blo and their contacts where being watched and killing the journalist made it worst .
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Windycitykid
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The reason this theory rings true is because of the large number of groups from Zacatecas that fell under the control of the z were working an crossing out of Juarez @ the time. There was reports of elements of the z in the city many from zaca working along VFO team. Made sense for them since nearest & busiest port of entry was Juarez for the m j growers from zaca.

Botas was good at colabrating with other plazas bosses in order to have variety of entry points for his product. Gulf, pacific, main airports in central part of Mex etc. The point is to buy loads as a group in order to reduce the losses incase shipments were ever busted.
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deelucky1
It is true they all worked together he even worked with the AFO  but like i said it wasnt because of his contacts
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deelucky1
And it was only el botas working with them el H and la barbie el indio opted out they refuse to work with the zetas the group that is working with them right now is chapo isidros faction
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deelucky1
They had no choice to get together with los zetas they couldnt trust anybody but old enemys  when mochomo went down everything fell apart they discovered there whole network and how  they operated the guy from el imparcial played a big role mentioning big names its not that CDS didnt want to help them they new BLO was being watched CDS has there own contacts that told them el botas took it as betrayal
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Chivis
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all this is news to me...I never heard that last letter split.
I thought Isidro and Zs are pretty much the key factor that prevented BLO from fading into the sunset.
after isidro was loyal to blo and did not o with chapo....but what do I know, a few months can change everything.

does anyone know anything about Mochomo?



Hey Tijuano
I rec this from Albania today....yes, Albania.  Your name is mentioned so I thought I would share it with you.  he found me on facebook

Hello Lady I hope that you are the real one Chivis of Borderlandbeat. If you are, i have to tell you this:

Im a journalist based in Tirana, Albania(Europe Continent)

I like a lot your job, your devotion your professionalism. I have a GREAT GREAT GREAT Respect for what you guys are doing. In my news newspaper called DITA, in wich im vice/Editor in Chief, i have published some of your articles about "Tijuana war" made it by Tijuano, or the special reports about "Barbie""Azul" and "Mayo".

God Bless BorderlandBeat and the TRUTH.
Hug.

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El"H"
haha thats great albania isl literally pretty much a little mexico in europe its petty crazy and corrupt over there all for a country with just a 3 million population

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/europe/130815/europe-marijuana-capital-lazarat-albania

there is this little village

"The annual crop earns almost $6 billion.
Last year’s raid didn’t last long. When officers began cutting down cannabis plants, 15 SUVs mounted with heavy machine guns materialized and started firing.
“We were drawing indiscriminate fire from 20 positions, including heavy machine guns and anti-tank missiles,” the commissioner said. “I saw a 70-year-old grandmother shooting at us with a heavy machine gun. I thought I was going to die.”

and its a major hub just like mexico with heroin that comes from Afghanistan always going through albania so the traficers there have major power and also cocaine comes from latin american to africa to albania so they have big big presence in trafficking of all the main 3 drugs in europe
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deelucky1
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When mamito said they  started working by themselves hes tallking about the Z splitting from the CDG
the rupture happen when CDG didnt want to give up el metro 3 for killing a el concord 3 Z plaza boss. z-40 and lazca gave coss 24 hours to turn in el metro 3 aka borrego he never did and the bloodbath began
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Chivis
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much worse~
 
The way I see it.... the more people that don't like me, the less people I have to please
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Tijuano
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Chivis wrote
all this is news to me...I never heard that last letter split.
I thought Isidro and Zs are pretty much the key factor that prevented BLO from fading into the sunset.
after isidro was loyal to blo and did not o with chapo....but what do I know, a few months can change everything.

does anyone know anything about Mochomo?



Hey Tijuano
I rec this from Albania today....yes, Albania.  Your name is mentioned so I thought I would share it with you.  he found me on facebook

Hello Lady I hope that you are the real one Chivis of Borderlandbeat. If you are, i have to tell you this:

Im a journalist based in Tirana, Albania(Europe Continent)

I like a lot your job, your devotion your professionalism. I have a GREAT GREAT GREAT Respect for what you guys are doing. In my news newspaper called DITA, in wich im vice/Editor in Chief, i have published some of your articles about "Tijuana war" made it by Tijuano, or the special reports about "Barbie""Azul" and "Mayo".

God Bless BorderlandBeat and the TRUTH.
Hug.

http://gazetadita.al/

Wow!, Nice to know BB has such a reach!, I read a little about Albania´s own issues with drugs and thought for a second I was reading about Mexico!
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