AMLO wants to sell Mexico's Presidential jet to Canada's PM Justin Trudeau

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AMLO wants to sell Mexico's Presidential jet to Canada's PM Justin Trudeau

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The Canadian PressJanuary 29, 2020
Mexico tries to sell presidential jet to Canada; raffle next
MEXICO CITY — Mexico is trying to sell its luxurious presidential jet to Canada, but will raffle the plane off if the Canadians don't want it, President Andrés Manuel López Obrador said Tuesday.

The offer marks the latest chapter in a desperate effort to unload the large and lavish Boeing 787 Dreamliner that López Obrador views as wasteful.

He said Tuesday that the plane bought for more than $200 million by his predecessor would be a step up for Canada's prime minister.

“We learned that Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau's airplane had problems, and we offered it to them, but there hasn't been an agreement yet,” López Obrador said. “The truth is that it is bigger than the Canadian prime minister's, and better.”

Officials have said Mexico would accept $130 million for the plane.

López Obrador presented a prototype of the lottery-style ticket that would be issued for the jet if the raffle idea goes ahead. He said he hoped business owners would buy huge blocks of the 500-peso ($25) tickets. The government hopes to sell 6 million tickets and use the proceeds to buy medical equipment.

More than a white elephant, the plane now seems to be an albatross. Some Mexicans said they wouldn't want to win it.

“I would not buy it,” Mexico City resident Lidia Flores said of the possible raffle tickets, saying she would have no idea of what to do with the hulking airliner is she won.

Even López Obrador expresses doubts about the idea, saying he worries that greed or envy could wreck the life of anyone who won the jet in a raffle.

“I don't want to bear the guilt, because I would be responsible,” he said Tuesday. “It worries me. It''s the only thing holding me back, how to prevent something bad befalling the person who wins.”

Others see the raffle proposal as a distraction from Mexico's real problems, like crime, violence and economic stagnation.

“This is a smoke screen,” said Eliseo Ochoa, a lawyer in Mexico City. “This is just a joke at the expense of the public.”

The austerity-minded López Obrador takes commercial flights and has refused to step foot on the presidential jet, which was purchased by the previous president, Enrique Peña Nieto.

López Obrador says the jet is too luxurious for a country where half the people are poor.

The plane failed to find a buyer after a year on sale at a U.S. airstrip, where it piled up about $1.5 million in maintenance costs.

The jet is expensive to run and is configured to carry only 80 people, with a full presidential suite with a bedroom and private bath. Experts say it would be too expensive to reconfigure back into a commercial airliner that normally carries as many as 300 passengers.

Previously, López Obrador had suggested bartering the plane in exchange for U.S. medical equipment or selling it in shares to a group of businessmen for executive incentive programs. He has also offered to rent it out by the hour, in hopes of paying off the remainder of outstanding loans on the plane.

Mexican Twitter users are posting ideas about where they would park the huge jet if they won it (clue: in the yard, because it won't fit in the garage). They fantasize about the kind of parties they would throw aboard it (beer-filled trips to the Super Bowl appears popular) and what colours they would paint it (one user suggested bright purple).

But the most popular idea for using the jet appears to be turning it into a stationary restaurant or taco stand.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/mexico-tries-to-sell-presidential-jet-to-canada-saying-it-s-better-than-pm-s-plane-1.4787847
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I couldn't see Canada buying it and all the jets flown by the Prime Ministers are all Canadian made by Bombardier.His is a 'Challenger' which is not much bigger than a Learjet but bigger like a 'Gulfstream' but no where near the size of a commercial jet like AMLO's.The raffle part I could totally see some narco winning it and tarnishing either AMLO or Mexico's reputation.Why not Donald Trump?(that's totally his style after he's out of office of course).I know a guy in Vancouver who revamps commercial airliners into luxurious private jets with the gold faucets,etc. For rich shieks in the Middle East.The restaurant idea might be novel but expensive.I remember in Buffalo,New York years ago there used to be a 747 that was converted into a bar and it was pretty cool when I was there especially having the 2 levels that a 747 has you were free to go up or down.
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Yeah, I doubt he’ll be buying anything not made right here in 🇨🇦 by bombardier, though god knows why. They can’t even deliver functioning streetcars on time.
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El Guero
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Why the overly complicated and nonsensical lottery method when there exist legitimate channels to easily sell an airliner?  Just list it for sale with a large jet brokerage firm.  This is amongst the dumbest things I've heard this week.
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Mica
I am still confused about why sell in the first place.  

Even though AMLO says he's giving the money to XYZ, Mexico is taking a huge loss!

Imagine buying a $20,000 truck in cash and selling it 1 year later for $10,000 and pretending that it is some kind of profit by justifying that the money will be given away.  

The next president in 5 years is going to buy another plane, it's guaranteed and it's going to be at full price.  This how socialist leaders play with no idea how the real world works.  

A lottery ticket system for an airplane, you can't make this up!
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El Guero
Good point Mica.  The next President will probably just order a brand new one anyways.  And it would require a seriously vivid imagination to make that up.  Did his grandkids put the crazy notion of a lottery system in his head?   Or is one of his cabinet members touting it with the intention of rigging the drawing?

Either way this whole lottery thing would end in either embarrassment, scandal, or more likely both.

I dont understand why the Mexican president would need such a massive jet.  A Gulfstream 550 should be quite adequate. 15 passengers and the fuel burn is 4x less while the maintenance costs are probably 15x less than this plane.

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Itzbrizz
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Wait he wanted to "raffle" it to the citizens? But is worried who ever wins it, it might corrupt them.

Im mexican american and thjs is just embarrassing.
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Looks like the Presidental plane may finally have a buyer

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/luxury-jet-spurned-mexicos-president-180832721.html
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1smart
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This plane represents the corruption and greed of previous administrations and also the contrast between the working and ruling class in Mexico. This is why Obrador wants nothing to do with it
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AMLO is going to sell the plane because it smells of excess from Nieto.  

AMLO is only trying to win the poor and marginalized.  He could meet in the middle with a Cessna Citation, but it's his symbol of the corruption that existed prior to his administration.  He drives an old Volvo, walks around without a security guard, flies coach.  Who does that appeal to, why and who enables him?

Not as much as previous corruption, but current talking head and ineffective at most.  A mask is not a scientific fact.  Great leadership!
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We still don't know who or what company bought the plane and even from what country as this wasn't revealed.AMLO I wonder about his talks about marginalized people as Chavaz in Venezuela did the same thing as well as Castro in Cuba.Not once was communism ever mentioned during their campaigns.They all said they would help the marginalized and poor which they did but nobody could do the free enterprise thing and start a business.Sure makes a person wonder where the backing of the campaigns are coming from as in what countries like China and Russia or even Corporations for that matter.I was in Cuba a few months ago and lots of Russian and Chinese influence but is that because of sanctions?I think there's more and a lot more than we will ever know to the story behind Venezuela and Cuba and possibly even Mexico besides the usual suspects like drug traffickers!
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El Tìntìn
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Canadian me feels your right Trudeau sticks with Bombardier.

I have a feeling we are going to eventually see this jet show up in a drug bust
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Yeah that thought crossed my mind.I'm pretty sure the serial # would stay the same because I don't think traffickers would care ( as they aren't suppose to be caught and if they are they're dead men walking).They would definitely repaint as I'm sure AMLO would insist.But then again I'm sure it's a luxury plane outfitted fancy and the cost would be too high to just have all those luxuries yanked out for payload so some Saudi Prince ( and that Royal family has like a 1000 members) would probably buy it.