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Re: 2019 Justice and Relief in Acapulco

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Thanks for that Chubby214.Im sure this is of interest to a lot of folks on here in the ever changing narco world.
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Re: 2018/2019 Guerrero in Mexico

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Good article.This should be on main board.I wonder if Chivis or Dr. Mirelles might have an opinion on this group.
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Re: 2019 Guerrero - Utah couple killed, kids in back

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Parro, can you translate ;)

Encuentro con medios, Fiscal General del Estado, Jorge Zuriel de los Santos Barrila, en seguimiento a los avances en investigación por hechos ocurridos al interior del bar “Mr. Bar”.

#Chilpancingo, Gro. 22 de julio de 2019.- El Fiscal General del Estado, Jorge Zuriel de los Santos Barrila, en encuentro con medios de comunicación informo del seguimiento en torno a la carpeta de investigación iniciada por el delito de homicidio y lesiones de los hechos ocurridos ayer domingo al interior del bar “Mr. Bar”.

De manera precisa, señaló que ayer domingo se informó que fueron privadas de la vida cuatro personas del sexo masculino y lesionadas siete personas con arma de fuego por un sujeto que ingresó al bar y disparó de manera directa a grupo de personas, todas radicadas en #Acapulco, quienes se encontraban en una mesa ubicada en el fondo de este establecimiento, exactamente en una esquina.

En la zona, los peritos realizaron las diligencias correspondientes, localizando en el lugar 21 casquillos percutidos calibre 9 mm y calibre 45.

Derivado de esta acción delictiva, de forma inmediata las corporaciones de seguridad realizaron un operativo conjunto, logrando la Secretaría de Seguridad Pública Municipal la detención de Uriel “N”, misma que probablemente se encuentra relacionada con este homicidio.

Así mismo señaló que derivado de los avances en la investigación, Uriel “N”, dio positivo a la prueba de rodizonato de sodio y el dictamen de balística forense determinó que los casquillos localizados en el lugar de los hechos fueron percutidos por el arma de fuego que le fue asegurada al probable responsable.

De las siete personas lesionadas, una de ellas perdió la vida cuando era trasladada en ambulancia para su atención médica, siendo hasta el momento cinco las personas que perdieron la vida, todos originarios de Acapulco.

Del avance en las investigaciones, se tiene conocimiento que las víctimas pertenecen al grupo delictivo liderado por el “20”, quien fue detenido hace algunos meses por esta Fiscalía General en coordinación con otras autoridades de seguridad y que actualmente se encuentra vinculado a proceso, persona a quien se le relaciona como el encargado de controlar las extorsiones en centros nocturnos y restaurantes de la zona costera y también tiene influencia en la parte alta del infonavit alta progreso.

Así mismo, derivado de las investigaciones, se sabe que al interior de dicho centro nocturno, los integrantes del grupo delictivo se reunían para coordinar el cobro de cuotas y recabar los recursos económicos de manera diaria, quienes fueron ultimadas por el grupo delincuencial contrario liderados por dos personas de alias “el toto” y el “saiko”.

La Fiscalía General del Estado, mantiene estrecha coordinación con las instituciones de seguridad pública federal, estatal y municipal para darle seguimiento a la carpeta de investigación en mención y lograr la detención de otros implicados en estos hechos y llevarlos ante las instancias correspondientes, así como la desarticulación de estos grupos delincuenciales como se ha venido realizando con las diversas detenciones de sus líderes.

https://www.milenio.com/policia/ataque-mr-bar-acapulco-ajuste-cuentas-fiscal-guerrero
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Re: 2019 Guerrero - Utah couple killed, kids in back

Parro
Chava, my pleasure.

-Meeting with the media, Attorney General of the State, Jorge Zuriel de los Santos Barrila (yep, millionaire mansion guy and friend of Hector Astudill Flores, and his son Carlos), in follow-up to the advances in investigation for events that occurred inside the bar “Mr. Pub". (karaoke bar, Mr. Disco)

#Chilpancingo, Gro. July 22, 2019.- The State Attorney General, Jorge Zuriel de los Santos Barrila, in a meeting with the media informed of the follow-up around the investigation folder initiated for the crime of homicide and injuries of the events that occurred yesterday Sunday inside the bar “Mr. Pub".

Precisely, he said that on Sunday it was reported that four people of the male sex were deprived of life (okay Chava, we have 4 people dead, all male) and seven people with a gun were injured by a subject who entered the bar and directly shot a group of people, all based in Acapulco, who were at a table located at the bottom of this establishment, exactly in a corner, (or on the corner).

In the area, the experts carried out the corresponding procedures, locating in place 21 percutaneous bushings caliber 9 mm and caliber 45 (percussion bullets).

Derived from this criminal action, the security corporations immediately carried out a joint operation, obtaining the arrest of Uriel “N” by the Municipal Public Security Secretariat, which is probably related to this homicide.

He also noted that derived from the advances in the investigation, Uriel "N", tested positive for sodium rhodizonate (gunshot powder)  and the forensic ballistics ruling determined that the caps located at the scene were struck by the firearm that was assured to the probable responsible.

Of the seven injured people, one of them lost her life (here is another lost life, a female, 5 total now) when she was taken by ambulance for medical attention, with five people who lost their lives (or 6 people?), all of them originally from Acapulco.

The progress in the investigations, it is known that the victims belong to the criminal group led by the “20” (Chava, who's this?), who was arrested a few months ago by this Attorney General in coordination with other security authorities and is currently linked to the process, person who is related as responsible for controlling extortion in nightclubs and restaurants in the coastal area and also has influence on the upper part of the high progress infonavit, (sorry Google translate, you can probably do better here).

Likewise, derived from the investigations, it is known that within said nightclub, the members of the criminal group met to coordinate the collection of fees and collect financial resources on a daily basis, who were finalized by the opposing criminal group led by two people from alias "el toto" and "saiko".

The State Attorney General's Office maintains close coordination with the federal, state and municipal public security institutions to follow up on the aforementioned investigation file and secure the detention of others involved in these events and bring them before the corresponding instances, as well as the dismantling of these criminal groups as has been done with the various arrests of their leaders.

-Chava, was looking at the scene of the crime, it was very bloody, with tourists who witnessed the event.  I'll see if I can dig up the pictures I was looking at.
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Re: 2019 Guerrero - Utah couple killed, kids in back

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I can comment on this, I know the bar.  I also know one of the dead, he was a waiter.  I also hear that there were only 3 malos there, so if there are 5 dead, I dunno yet who the 5th person was.  

 The club was an after hours place.  Location is about center of the bay, across from the Fiesta Americana hotel.   This bar was an after hours place - opened up around 12pm, but didn't get going until 3 when the other bars and clubs closed.   They did get tourists, given its location, but the bread and butter was people getting off bars and clubs and wanting to wind down.  Was a half-block from Samantha's (strip club).  

The rest of the injured were by all accounts innocents.  So the shooters got sloppy.  

Conspiracy theory time.   http://www.agenciainformativaguerrero.com/?p=126241  This person (several degrees of separation from me, though I met him once or twice) was also a waiter, I think at the same bar.  Killed a day before, I think on Friday.   I think this is connected, though no-one else seems to have mentioned that.   If you look at his shirt, it is the same color as the Mr. Bar employees shirt https://www.lorealdeguerrero.com.mx/2019/07/21/masacre-en-un-bar-de-acapulco-deja-5-muertos-y-6-heridos/



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Re: 2019 Guerrero - Zihaut Murder

Parro


The president of the Zihuatanejo Hoteliers’ Association was shot and killed Monday night in an attack by two people on a motorcycle.

Luciano Pineda Quiroz, 42, was the owner of the Hotel Real Monrey and served on the board of directors of the local Red Cross.

According to authorities, the shooting occurred around 9:00pm as Pineda Quiroz and his wife were traveling in a vehicle through downtown Zihuatanejo when armed men aboard a motorcycle pulled up next to them and opened fire.

Pineda was already dead when paramedics arrived but his wife was wounded. She was rushed to a hospital where she was last reported in critical condition.

Zihuatanejo, located in Guerrero’s Costa Grande region, is a popular destination for national and international tourists but has been seen a dramatic surge in violent crime since 2017.

In February, the Red Cross temporarily suspended its activities in the city after its local manager was killed. Authorities discovered a handwritten message at the scene of the crime threatening the same fate for Zihuatanejo’s remaining Red Cross workers, prompting many of its volunteers to flee.

Although the mayor said in April that security had improved, statistics show the municipality was 16th on the list of Mexico’s most violent municipalities in the first six months of the year with a homicide rate of 84 per 100,000 people.

Source: El Sol de Acapulco (sp)
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Re: 2019 Guerrero - Utah couple killed, kids in back

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Re: 2019 Guerrero - Utah couple killed, kids in back

Parro
Which is El 20?  in the video, one thin and one gorda, looking at the pictures I cannot tell who is who, but in the video, it appears to be a tall thin man pulling the trigger.  Who is El 20?

On 7/24/2019 at 12:34 PM, "Chava [via Borderland Beat Forum]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
Info on El 20

<a target="_blank" href="https://noticieros.televisa.com/ultimas-noticias/detienen-benjamin-alias-el-20-acapulco-guerrero/" onclick="window.open('https://noticieros.televisa.com/ultimas-noticias/detienen-benjamin-alias-el-20-acapulco-guerrero/');return false;">https://noticieros.televisa.com/ultimas-noticias/detienen-benjamin-alias-el-20-acapulco-guerrero/


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Re: 2019 Guerrero - Utah couple killed, kids in back

Parro
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This is a good conspiracy theory.  You know the bar and one of the dead of 5 reported, a waiter.  The previous day, another waiter was murdered and found at 8:00 am.  He worked at the same place, you believe  Please let me know if I have this right.  The killings could be intertwined, an establishment not paying their piso, so they take it out on everyone associated with the place. What did they think?  I'll kill some employees and they will pay my piso?  Is it that screwed up?  Cartels, thugs, extortionists, for what?  Misery, violence and sadness for the families, who did not even know these people, and those people, not knowing them as well.  An interesting conspiracy theory Infohiker.  Seems plausible to me.

On 7/23/2019 at 7:01 AM, "Infohiker [via Borderland Beat Forum]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
I can comment on this, I know the bar.  I also know one of the dead, he was a waiter.  I also hear that there were only 3 malos there, so if there are 5 dead, I dunno yet who the 5th person was.  

 The club was an after hours place.  Location is about center of the bay, across from the Fiesta Americana hotel.   This bar was an after hours place - opened up around 12pm, but didn't get going until 3 when the other bars and clubs closed.   They did get tourists, given its location, but the bread and butter was people getting off bars and clubs and wanting to wind down.  Was a half-block from Samantha's (strip club).  

The rest of the injured were by all accounts innocents.  So the shooters got sloppy.  

Conspiracy theory time.   <a target="_blank" href="http://www.agenciainformativaguerrero.com/?p=126241" onclick="window.open('http://www.agenciainformativaguerrero.com/?p=126241');return false;">http://www.agenciainformativaguerrero.com/?p=126241  This person (several degrees of separation from me, though I met him once or twice) was also a waiter, I think at the same bar.  Killed a day before, I think on Friday.   I think this is connected, though no-one else seems to have mentioned that.   If you look at his shirt, it is the same color as the Mr. Bar employees shirt <a target="_blank" href="https://www.lorealdeguerrero.com.mx/2019/07/21/masacre-en-un-bar-de-acapulco-deja-5-muertos-y-6-heridos/" onclick="window.open('https://www.lorealdeguerrero.com.mx/2019/07/21/masacre-en-un-bar-de-acapulco-deja-5-muertos-y-6-heridos/');return false;">https://www.lorealdeguerrero.com.mx/2019/07/21/masacre-en-un-bar-de-acapulco-deja-5-muertos-y-6-heridos/






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Re: 2019 Guerrero - Utah couple killed, kids in back

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I did.  This took the wind out of me -

On 7/22/2019 at 12:40 PM, "Chava [via Borderland Beat Forum]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
Traveling at that hour - first mistake. Anyone and everyone knows better. Still disgusting.

Also, that checkpoint is a well known check point. YOU STOP AT THAT ONE. ALWAYS.




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Re: 2018/2019 Guerrero in Mexico

Parro
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H39, thanks.  Read this.  Who are these people, where do they get their guns and bullets from?  They have deep pocketed investors, narcos theirselves probably.  Do you think they are doing their job under this veil of outrage and justice?


On 7/22/2019 at 4:30 AM, "H39 [via Borderland Beat Forum]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
The men in the trucks are members of the United Front of Community Police of Guerrero State, better known by its Spanish acronym of FUPCEG. Tonight FUPCEG’s shock troops are on their way to assault the nearby town of El Naranjo, which is currently held by the forces of an organized crime group called the Cartel del Sur.

An article about vigilantes in Guerrero:
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Re: 2019 Justice and Relief in Acapulco

Parro
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Excellent, in depth!  Thanks Chubby214

On 7/21/2019 at 9:22 PM, "Chubby214 [via Borderland Beat Forum]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
This video goes into detail about who is fighting who in Guerrero. Lots of mini cartels formed by remnants of the BLO

<a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/sr2QQBwEnXo" onclick="window.open('https://youtu.be/sr2QQBwEnXo');return false;">https://youtu.be/sr2QQBwEnXo


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I would guess narcos trying to get rid of their rivals and big money businessman that are hurt by cartels like those in San Pedro Garza García who funded El Grupo Rudo

>“We need their help,” he says, referring to those independent opium gum buyers who help fund FUPCEG’s efforts

Who else buys opium gun except narcos?

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Re: 2019 Guerrero - Utah couple killed, kids in back

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I think the waiter killed the Friday before was killed in an attempt by the shooters group to confirm that the victims group used the bar as a regular gathering point.  Then I think this guy was killed so as to not tip anyone off before the Mr. Bar shooting happened.  

I dont think his was the bar failing to pay extortion.  This was one group hitting another, with innocents caught up in it.  

There HAVE been cases of shooting up bars that don't pay in Acapulco.  One of the more notorious events was in 2016  https://www.elsoldemexico.com.mx/republica/Balacera-en-bar-de-Acapulco-deja-dos-muertos-y-cinco-heridos-166173.html

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Re: 2019 Guerrero - Utah couple killed, kids in back

Chava
I tend to agree with that Infohiker.

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Re: 2019 Guerrero - Utah couple killed, kids in back

Chava
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El 20 "supposedly" (I say supposedly, because no one ever gives updates on who's still in and who paid bribes, etc. to get out) --- still in prison. He was arrested at the end of the year.

Even in or out -- he still runs the show.
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A statement from Nielsen’s children from his first – and still current – marriage, which cites the boy’s account of events, said that three vehicles began chasing the car in which their father was traveling.

Vázquez shouted that they were going to be attacked after which Nielsen accelerated and the people pursuing their car opened fire, the statement said.

Nielsen lost control of his vehicle and crashed on the side of the road. The aggressors pulled him, his wife and stepson out of the car, robbed them and placed them in another vehicle, the statement said.

The family said it was unclear at what point Nielsen and Vázquez were killed but explained that they were driven to another location where their bodies were dumped on the side of the road.

Kevin Rojas Vázquez was abandoned with his deceased mother and stepfather and tried to flag down passing motorists “but no one paid attention until the state police arrived.”

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Earlier reports said that he too had been shot but Nielsen’s family said that wasn’t the case. Kevin is now living with relatives, they said.

The statement said that the boy is “very traumatized” and hasn’t been able to provide all the details about what happened.

The family said they didn’t know very much about the status of the investigation but added that they had been told that both Mexican and United States authorities “are working to find the killers.”

Nielsen’s body was returned to Utah on Thursday and a funeral service will be held this week.

“Our family is absolutely devastated over the loss of our dad. We were very close to him. His family was his world, and he wasn’t just our father, he was one of our best friends,” the statement said.

The family described Nielsen’s death as “the most difficult moment of our lives,” adding that “it’s very important to us that we warn other people so that they don’t have to go through the same thing.”

“. . . The State Department has an active travel advisory for certain areas of Mexico, including the state our dad was planning on driving through. Though he was usually a careful person, he must not have seen that advisory, and that ignorance had tragic results that will affect all of us for the rest of our lives.”

Nielsen’s daughter, Priscilla Nielsen, told CNN that her father and Vázquez were in a faith-based marriage rather than a legally recognized one.

“Questions have also been asked about the nature of our relationship with Janet and Kevin. Our dad married Janet as a second wife about three years ago, and Kevin became his stepson. Immigration was not a reasonable option so our dad split his time between Mexico and Utah,” the family’s statement said.

Source: CNN (en), ABC 4 (en)
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“Questions have also been asked about the nature of our relationship with Janet and Kevin. Our dad married Janet as a second wife about three years ago, and Kevin became his stepson. Immigration was not a reasonable option so our dad split his time between Mexico and Utah,” the family’s statement said.


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