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200,000 People Involved in Mexico 'Death Squads'

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200,000 People Involved in Mexico 'Death Squads': Congressman

Written by Claire O'Neill McCleskey Thursday, 04 July 2013


A new study claims that up to 200,000 people in Mexico could be involved in death squads, whether at the service of organized crime, private interests, or even state actors, highlighting the alarming proliferation of armed groups in Mexico.

A study authored by Congressman Ricardo Monreal Avila, "Death Squads in Mexico," divides the death squads into four categories according to who funds and supports them, as Proceso reports. Official groups -- a term which Monreal uses to refer to groups funded by state actors -- include paramilitary groups and clandestine Armed Forces units dedicated to exterminating criminals. Private groups are made up of mercenaries, often from Israel or the United States, contracted by businesses for personal security. Parallel groups are composed of members of criminal organizations. Finally, there are insurgent groups, which include Mexico's growing number of self-defense organizations.

Many of these groups rent out their services to criminal organizations, function as private armies, and provide services such as kidnapping, extortion, and human trafficking, according to Monreal. The report estimates that six out of ten members are former police or military, and that the total number of recruits may be as many as 200,000. The report also asserts that the so-called private and parallel groups, which include a rising number of women and minors, are the most dangerous of the organizations, as Univision reports.

Monreal's study also criticizes the state for failing to recognizing the existence of these death squads and for failing to take back institutional control in areas where armed groups maintain a "parallel illegal economy."


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The congressman's report helps shed light on the alarming number of illegal armed groups in Mexico which are either out of the state's control or actually working alongside or even within state security forces.

Monreal's condemnation of "private" armed groups hired by businesses to protect their employees and interests is particularly concerning, given the explosion in demand for private security in recent years in Mexico.

The report also directly challenges assertions by previous president Felipe Calderon, who denied the existence of death squads and paramilitary forces in Mexico after a spate of killings attributed to a group calling itself the "Mata-Zetas" (Zetas Killers).

The definition of "death squad" in the report may be too broad, and it is not necessarily accurate to refer to Mexico's self-defense organizations as "insurgent" groups. However, the report is illustrative of a disturbing trend in Mexico: the state's loss over its monopoly on the legitimate use of force.


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Death squad??? This article is similar to when some U.S. government people used to say the Mexican Government will collapse because it was a fail state.

We have powerful cartels who kill out of paranoia, fear, or revenge. Maybe the one who wrote this article is confusing corruption with Death squads but who knows, so far most of the people getting killed are low level criminals, people involved on organized crime, some dirty politicians, some honest cops, and politicians, but Mexico is not on a civil war, there's no persecution, or genocide.

No I don't think this article is right.
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@Texcoco.  There are many people that would disagree with you about your question marks concerning death squads.  You might want to read a couple of Chivis' previous posts on the subject.

Social Cleansing Not Drugwar
http://borderland-beat-forum.924382.n3.nabble.com/Social-Cleansing-Not-Drugwar-tp4019605p4019771.html

KILLING OF INNOCENTS
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2012/05/mexico-killing-of-innocents-by-cartels.html

And there was a lot of good discussion on the subject in a thread posted by Baggy a few weeks ago;
Discussion type thread dealing with death squad.

http://borderland-beat-forum.924382.n3.nabble.com/Discussion-type-thread-deally-tp4051494p4051610.html

@AJ No where in the article do they explain where they came up with the 200,000 number.  It may have been in the report which the group of Congressmen requested from CISEN, but I have not been able to find a published copy of that report.
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Nothing new for LatAm. Mexico is just late in that game.

I laugh at Estadounidenses, people born and raised in the US claiming some LatAm country that they have never lived in as their own, who are shocked by the concept because they think the US did it. Nooooooo! The US can not "do" or instigate what someone in LatAm is not willing to go along with.

One cannot prop up a dictator unless he agrees to it for money or whatever. One cannot fund a death squad unless there are people who agree to be a part of it.

In Colombia, there are squads that go around and kill prostitutes and drug users at night. There are squads that go around and kill people for their lands, kill gang bangers, there are squads who go around and kill political opponents, kill union reps for international corporations, etc.

Yet notice, one cannot get the people in the US to screw their own like that. They have some pride & think the offer is offensive. But Latinos, no.
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@JMB. you said;
US can not "do" or instigate what someone in LatAm is not willing to go along with.

The US has some pretty well documented history of assassinations and over throwing governments in Central America and even Mexico.  Sometimes using mercenaries, but sometimes using special forces or CIA squads.
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"Yet notice, one cannot get the people in the US to screw their own like that. They have some pride & think the offer is offensive. But Latinos, no"

This has nothing to do with that, most if not all countries have groups who would be willing to kill their own as you said given the right circumstances, the US too, just throw impunity, social inequalities, political unstability and someone willing to finance, train and help organize them and there you have the perfect mix, pride or thinking the offer is offensive has nothing to do with it, most latinos are not members of death squads, cartels or criminal gangs either, this is not a matter of character or cultural traits.

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DD wrote
@Texcoco.  There are many people that would disagree with you about your question marks concerning death squads.  You might want to read a couple of Chivis' previous posts on the subject.

Social Cleansing Not Drugwar
http://borderland-beat-forum.924382.n3.nabble.com/Social-Cleansing-Not-Drugwar-tp4019605p4019771.html

KILLING OF INNOCENTS
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2012/05/mexico-killing-of-innocents-by-cartels.html

And there was a lot of good discussion on the subject in a thread posted by Baggy a few weeks ago;
Discussion type thread dealing with death squad.

http://borderland-beat-forum.924382.n3.nabble.com/Discussion-type-thread-deally-tp4051494p4051610.html

@AJ No where in the article do they explain where they came up with the 200,000 number.  It may have been in the report which the group of Congressmen requested from CISEN, but I have not been able to find a published copy of that report.
Well I'm sure they will disagree with me because they don't remember back in the days here in the U.S. all the drive by shootings, not to mention that from 1971 till 2002 the murders in the U.S. was over 16,000 a year up to 25,000 a year, wast that Social Cleansing? KILLING OF INNOCENTS? Or was Death Squads on the U.S.? I used to live in the heart of Logan Heights during that time and it just to be dangerous to be out on the streets after dark I will look on the internet to see what a death squad is and I will get back to you on this one.
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Death Squads

A death squad is an armed military, police, insurgent, or terrorist squad that conducts extrajudicial killings, assassinations, and forced disappearances of persons as part of a war, insurgency or terror campaign. These killings are often conducted in ways meant to ensure the secrecy of the killers' identities, so as to avoid accountability.

Death squads are often, but not exclusively, associated, with the violent political repression under police states, one party states, or military dictatorships. It is not unheard of, however, for more democratic governments to form death squads during a state of emergency and then disband them once the crisis passes.
Death squads are also frequently used during times of civil war, religious persecution, or genocide. They often have the tacit or express support of domestic or foreign Governments (see state terrorism). Death squads may comprise a secret police force, paramilitary forces or official government units with members drawn from the military or the police. They may also be organized as vigilante groups.
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